My Five Final Reasons Against McCain/Palin

[Shastafarian]

University of Utah and I also played JC ball at Ricks College in Rexburg Idaho for 1 year.

Only 2. Congratulations! You have more respect from me than does Sarah Palin.

[Shastafarian]

now your elaboration as to why your degree is superior to hers?

Because it takes intelligence and possibly more importantly effort to attend under 6 colleges to attain a degree in journalism? Maybe?

[DarkReign]

Who cares if she was vetted by a bias media ? Why does that matter?

It is of extreme importance that any candidate be vetted. Think about what youre saying there for a moment.

she appeals to middle america so what ? Obama doesn't do the same with his " I dont look like the other presidents" comments ?

She does not appeal to middle America. She appeals to the religious south and low information voters.

Obama preaches division too - along racial and economic lines. All of them preach division.

Dont agree with racial lines, but I certainly agree with economic.

What interest did Obama have in foreign affairs - to your knowledge - before he threw his hat in the ring for the presidency with his 129 " Present" votes ? I can't remember who called him a chickens---- ,, but the shoe definitely fits.

I never said Obama/Biden was an expert, nor did I say the VP had to be. But just have an interest, a curiosity, a passing knowledge of current events and the players in the game. 3 of the 4 people in this election have that in spades.

She had none of that prior to be selected VP. Which makes me wonder who wanted her to be VP in the first place knowing that about her?

Who cares how many colleges she attended before she got her bachelors degree. She got it done.

Fair point. Very fair.

Obama tries to qualify himself as an executive because he organized communities - and that is okay with you ? She was a Mayor and a Governor - meaning she was CEO of a town and a state - she was an executive.

Please....this just doesnt fly with me and it never will.

Population of Alaska: ~680,000
Population of Chicago: ~2,800,000

GDP of Alaska: $39.9 Billion
GMP of Chicago: $440 Billion

Federal money spent per dollar contributed:
Alaska = $1.84
Illinois = $0.75

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html

Like I said, this whole governor of Alaska doesnt mean to me anymore. The deck is stacked in that poition's favor. When youre the governor of Alaska, Big Brother bails you out, year in and year out. (Thank you, Ted Stevens!)

Shes never balanced a budget in her political life. Nor has Obama, nor has McCain or Biden or Palin.

But if I had to trust someone, would it be the born into nothing Ivy League grad and his chump VP or would it be the military man who was legacied through Anapolis and graduated fourth form the bottom and his total chump of a VP?

Tough decision, I know.

Palin is a puppet and yet there are several - maybe yourself included - - who have called her ROGUE on here... ?? You can't have it both ways. Either she is a pupper or she is rogue .. which will it be ? The same can be said of Obama - only it will actually fit .. He is a puppet for the FAR LEFT - Acorn - William Ayers - Soros funded groups - he is a puppet.

Obama went from Community organizer to the Senate- - all with help from several groups ACORN , etc... who he owes a HUGE debt too.

OK, now youre not making sense and youre slinging partisan mud. What, pray tell, does ACORN have to do with Obama? And somehow Ayers helped him?

Regardless, Palin isnt running against Obama. Lets not muddy the waters here.

I look at Palin knowing she was never McCain's choice, she is incurious and about as interested in the outside world as a hermit.

She starkly reminds me of a female Bush. There is a reason the RNC liked Bush, namely his trifecta of Rove/Rummy/Cheney. He was malleable and dumb, he was the fall guy, the puppet, the pitchman.

Funny, they were/are both governors. But keep giving them credit. You dont hear me kissing the ass of the Michigan governor, do you? No, because she sucks ass nor does she deserve to be in the VP chair. Nor does Palin, yet here we are....

I am not a hardcore republican ( A conservative and registered independent) , religious zealot ( I believe in and worship God but I also believe everyone is free to worship who, how, when, where and whom they choose to - or choose not to) , or a lonely older male... nor do I vote with my genitals. She sure as appeals to me.

Then I think youre being less than truthful about your genitals.

[DarkReign]

I just wanted to say that I think the reason that he came up with this conspiracy theory about the Palin pick is that we, even as Democrats, really want to believe that at least a little bit of the John McCain of 2000 still exists. On one hand we have the possiblity that John McCain picked Palin of his own free will because he thought she would be the absolute best for the job. The ramifications of this option is that (in our eyes) John McCain has lost all possible claim to being a "Maverick," bipartisanship, and heck it greatly calls HIS judgement into question. I don't want to believe that he has completely changed because I thought he was great at the time (would have voted for him if he won the nom in 2000, and I liked Gore, so that's saying something). I think that there are a lot of people who are shocked and dismayed by the decisions he has made in this campaign and the changes in his previously stated policies ( I mean TORTURE for crying out loud, you would think that this would be the ONE area he wouldn't mess with). So with that being said, I think there are a great many of us who would rather believe some kind of cloak and dagger conspiracy theory, than to have to believe the man that we had so much respect for has fallen this far.

I know I used "we" in here a lot, I guess I only speak for myself, but maybe there are others out there like me.

Go ahead and include me in the "we" portion.

[Drachen]

Go ahead and include me in the "we" portion.

Done!

[implacable44]

Because it takes intelligence and possibly more importantly effort to attend under 6 colleges to attain a degree in journalism? Maybe?

oh well I will sleep much better tonight...

I still say her degree is just as good - regardless of how many colleges she attended.

[implacable44]

Obama appeals to low information and uneducated voters.

[Shastafarian]

oh well I will sleep much better tonight...

I still say her degree is just as good - regardless of how many colleges she attended.

And I say her behavior and perceived mentality back then is partly what's wrong with our country's education system. People don't have the desire to learn.

[FromWayDowntown]

Obama appeals to low information and uneducated voters.

Just how broad is that brush that you paint with?

And I was under the impression that one major problem with Obama is that he appealed too much to the intellectual elite in their Ivy League ivory towers.

[implacable44]

Just how broad is that brush that you paint with?

And I was under the impression that one major problem with Obama is that he appealed too much to the intellectual elite in their Ivy League ivory towers.

I will consider it just as broad as the brush D.R. painted with.

Obama does appeal to the ivey league elite - professors because the majority of them favor socialism - marxism or basically anything but capitalism and democracy.

[FromWayDowntown]

I will consider it just as broad as the brush D.R. painted with.

Obama does appeal to the ivey league elite - professors because the majority of them favor socialism - marxism or basically anything but capitalism and democracy.

So wait, does Obama appeal to low information and uneducated voters? or to highly educated and highly informed voters?

[Shastafarian]

So wait, does Obama appeal to low information and uneducated voters? or to highly educated and highly informed voters?

Since he's gonna win in a landslide, it must be both.


Couldn't resist.

[ChumpDumper]

implacable has the numbers to back his contentions up, of course.

[implacable44]

So wait, does Obama appeal to low information and uneducated voters? or to highly educated and highly informed voters?

No he appeals to the social elite liberal left - professors and those who want Socialism and definitely to those less educated -- uninformed voters who are looking for a handout and for the government to provide for them -- which sadly in these united states is a HUGE number.

[Bartleby]

Why do you always capitalize socialism and capitalism?

[ChumpDumper]

We've been over this. Voters of every education level favor Obama -- but please, keep whining.

[FromWayDowntown]

No he appeals to the social elite liberal left - professors and those who want Socialism and definitely to those less educated -- uninformed voters who are looking for a handout and for the government to provide for them -- which sadly in these united states is a HUGE number.

So to those who have the most education and to those who have the least, right?

[implacable44]

Why do you always capitalize socialism and capitalism?

I dont. - punctuation is the least of my concerns - I can barely see this box I am typing in here at work -- gotta keep it small.

[implacable44]

We've been over this. Voters of every education level favor Obama -- but please, keep whining.

and voters of every education favor McCain. and D.R whined -- I just stated the same comment he did -- so I guess he was whining, Dung - so redirect your stupidity.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Obama does appeal to the ivey league elite - professors because the majority of them favor socialism - marxism or basically anything but capitalism and democracy.

Ivy league professors favor socialism and hate capitalism and democracy?? seriously, how full of do you have to be for it to be spilling out like that??

[implacable44]

How full of it do you have to be to think otherwise - check who was the largest donor to Obama ? - if memory serves three of the top 5 were universities - Harvard -- Cal and I forget the other one -- with Cal being #1

[ChumpDumper]

and voters of every education favor McCain.

No, they don't. Voters of every education level favor Obama over McCain.

[ChumpDumper]

How full of it do you have to be to think otherwise - check who was the largest donor to Obama ? - if memory serves three of the top 5 were universities - Harvard -- Cal and I forget the other one -- with Cal being #1

Please provide a link to this information about donors to the Obama campaign..

[DarkReign]

and voters of every education favor McCain. and D.R whined -- I just stated the same comment he did -- so I guess he was whining, Dung - so redirect your stupidity.

Huh? Does this make sense to you? Doesnt to me.

[DarkReign]

No, they don't. Voters of every education level favor Obama over McCain.

Seriously, implac, I remember this graph of ownage. The educated favor Obama far more than McCain. We concluded its because liberal college professors brainwash grown adults.

IIRC, the chart went waaaaaaaaay over to Obama when you got to PhD-level education. Something like 70-80% of doctorates, or something. Dont skewer me if I am off on that.