George Hill is not Tony Parker

[SpurSupremacist]

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See: Post above.

[SpurSupremacist]

Wow, and I thought I steamrolled him on this subject!

Ehhh, except... not.

[Spur-Addict]

I don't think it's as much of an improvement, as much as I believe it's about finally seeing the real Hill.

All the indecision and lack of familiarity (the things I felt really hampered him during the summer) seem to be subsiding, thus we're starting to see the player the Spurs were so confident could contribute right away.

I really wanted a backup point/combo-guard in the draft, so I had my eye on Chalmers. I saw Chalmers as a bit of a young L.Hunter, and a guy that could contribute right away. I still feel that he would've been a good pick, and a solid contributor for years to come, but I also feel that he has nowhere near the upside of Hill.

Like most on the day of the draft, I was unfamiliar with Hill. After the Spurs picked him though, I went back and watched and read everything I could find on the kid.

Everything I found out about him lead me to believe that the Spurs found another gem, and that his summer showing was little more than an aberration.

Like Elliott said, he's like a little mini "Plastic-Man." He's got characteristics of Rondo, Harris, Ellis, (to name a few) and a toughness/demeanor that should serve him well.

Tonight Hill gave the Spur fans a glimpse of the havoc he should be able to create on both ends of the floor for years to come. Come to think of it...

George "Havoc" Hill, has a nice ring to it.

[Obstructed_View]

Ehhh, except... not.

The fact that you're too stupid to notice it doesn't change it.

[Ice009]

Sure, Hill is a better defender. I'm not disputing that. But, Beno is so far ahead of him on offense that it makes his defensive shortcomings void. Hill's jumper is absolutely atrocious. I've seen better jumpers in rec leagues. His finishing is also still suspect, no matter how many finishes on Yao you want to show me. One game doesn't mean , especially on a poor defensive player like Yao.

WTF funny, I thought Beno's jumper was atrocious. You're saying he's a smooth shooter?

[Tully365]

Except per 48 minute stats are something almost no one goes by. Why? Because it's a bogus stat. For an example, I'll give Reggie Evans a few years ago. Based on his rebounding per 48 minutes, he was better than guys like Duncan and Garnett. Point proven.

Sure, Hill is a better defender. I'm not disputing that. But, Beno is so far ahead of him on offense that it makes his defensive shortcomings void. Hill's jumper is absolutely atrocious. I've seen better jumpers in rec leagues. His finishing is also still suspect, no matter how many finishes on Yao you want to show me. One game doesn't mean , especially on a poor defensive player like Yao.

You've cherry-picked one example-- Reggie Evans-- which isn't a legit example. Evans is in fact a very good rebounder, but unfortunately doesn't do anything else. That's why he doesn't play more minutes. If he wasn't an outstanding rebounder, Evans wouldn't even be in the NBA.

But if you are going to say that "one game doesn't mean ," then how can you also say that Hill will not be better than Beno on offense? The simple fact of the matter is, Beno had his chance to be a back-up PG for a championship caliber team and was too weak in too many areas to be kept. He'll ac ulate inflated stats for a mediocre Sacramento team now, but he's simply not the kind of complete player that leads teams to championships... whereas Hill just might be.

[exstatic]

You've cherry-picked one example-- Reggie Evans-- which isn't a legit example. Evans is in fact a very good rebounder, but unfortunately doesn't do anything else. That's why he doesn't play more minutes. If he wasn't an outstanding rebounder, Evans wouldn't even be in the NBA.

But if you are going to say that "one game doesn't mean ," then how can you also say that Hill will not be better than Beno on offense? The simple fact of the matter is, Beno had his chance to be a back-up PG for a championship caliber team and was too weak in too many areas to be kept. He'll ac ulate inflated stats for a mediocre Sacramento team now, but he's simply not the kind of complete player that leads teams to championships... whereas Hill just might be.

+1 Beno was a pussy, and I fail to understand anyone who claims to be a Spurs fan or understand the Spurs philosophy who still pines for his mentally weak ass. Girlz are exempt. They all want to mama his mama needing self.

[SpursFanFirst]

Girlz are exempt. They all want to mama his mama needing self.

...ummm....no.

[sexinthatsx]

Sometimes, you just have to face the fact that Pop would much rather keep veterans over young players. The fact that Beno got an MLE contract from the Kings surprises me, even given the stats he had when he was a spur. Maybe all he needed was a little confidence, and since he didn't find it here in the Spurs, I fail to recognize how us keeping him could've given him any more confidence

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most playoff teams do not play their rookies alot of minutes

[BruceBowenFan]

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[CubanMustGo]

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[cherylsteele]

Girlz are exempt. They all want to mama his mama needing self.

I know some guys that are like that.