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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    And that is something to be proud of?
    you're right--I shoulda bought a Kaiser, or a Rastrojero pickup.

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    The whole New Car Industry is always a conundrum for me generally when it comes to debates like this one. I've never purchased a new car and I never will, simply because new cars are a terrible investment. My oldest friend is a complete car nut, and buys a new car every few years, so I do understand the appeal of it... but for me, it just seems like an unnecessary waste of money. I drive an '87 Mercedes that I bought at a car auction for $3200. It runs like a dream, and its original list price when new was $50,000.
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    that is what boeing, northrop grumman, etc are for.
    So instead of making planes, missiles, and satellites you'd rather they made jeeps, troop-transports, and heavy artillery....idiot...

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    So instead of making planes, missiles, and satellites you'd rather they made jeeps, troop-transports, and heavy artillery....idiot...
    I believe most of those defense contractors manufacture land-based systems as well as the aerospace stuff. Boeing, Northrup Grumman, Lockheed, GD, etc. Clandestino was correct. You must be thinking of World War II.

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    The Fit is an awesome car and its pretty damn cheap. Too bad GM can't compete with it.

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    The whole New Car Industry is always a conundrum for me generally when it comes to debates like this one. I've never purchased a new car and I never will, simply because new cars are a terrible investment. My oldest friend is a complete car nut, and buys a new car every few years, so I do understand the appeal of it... but for me, it just seems like an unnecessary waste of money. I drive an '87 Mercedes that I bought at a car auction for $3200. It runs like a dream, and its original list price when new was $50,000.
    Have you ever dated a girl and been forced to hang out with her "old friends"?

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    Old stereotype from people who know nothing of automobiles.


    Not surprising you would be one of them though.
    exactly. american cars really arent of ty quality. dumbasses just think they are. prove to me that american cars are made less reliable?

    If Detroit wasn't visionless & senselessly infatuated with gas guzzlers since the 1970s, and if more Americans didn't view conservation as some sort of terrible infringement on freedom, our entanglements with the Middle East generally and Saudi Arabia specifically would have been far fewer... and 9/11 probably would not have happened.
    doesnt chevy have one of the most, if not the most, vehicles in their lineup that gets over 30 mpg/hwy?

    I own an American car.

    It's not as well deigned or reliable as the foreign cars I have owned.

    Not surprising that you're an idiot though.
    hmmm......well ive owned 7 american cars adn one foreign. guess which one had a ty transmission and had a recall that the dealer ed up and put the whole rear end together wrong? thats right. the foreign one. and it was a nissan jsut for anyone who was wondering. if foreign cars are so awesome, go to my350z.com and take alook aroudn at all the problems with the Z in particular and the company as a whole. i mean double digit transmission models on a car that is only 6 years old? really?

    i wish i was cool like you.

    that is what boeing, northrop grumman, etc are for.
    agreed. troop transport doestn mean much bc what is going to stop us? we destryoyed all that russion crap i the first gulf war and again in this one. plus our superior air defense would take out any crap plane they try to send against us. on top of the apache tank killer not to mention the c130 gunship and the A10. i mean seriously? who do you think has better than us nbadan?

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    So instead of making planes, missiles, and satellites you'd rather they made jeeps, troop-transports, and heavy artillery....idiot...
    you sir are an idiot

    yuo apparently know nohting about what is out there righ tnow in the current field of vehicles employed or what the enemy has either.


    but keep talking big on a website and trying to make yourself feel big adn important.

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    That looks exactly like my car. It has 110k miles on it, gets 27 miles per gallon, has 225 horsepower, cool air and will probably go another 150 thousand miles. Exactly what part of that is ty?

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    That looks exactly like my car. It has 110k miles on it, gets 27 miles per gallon, has 225 horsepower, cool air and will probably go another 150 thousand miles. Exactly what part of that is ty?
    Its American, it must suck.

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    Clearly, the solution to Detroit's problems is to bring back the 1991 Mustang and sell people on the fact that the A/C works. Most cars don't have A/C.

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    Clearly, the solution to Detroit's problems is to bring back the 1991 Mustang and sell people on the fact that the A/C works. Most cars don't have A/C.
    ???

    I haven't seen a car in years that doesn't have AC.

    Must be a regional thing.

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    Must be a regional thing.
    Apparently sarcasm is too.

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    Apparently sarcasm is too.
    so are ACs. Do you really need an AC unit up in Alaska or Wisconsin or Minnesota?

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    so are ACs. Do you really need an AC unit up in Alaska or Wisconsin or Minnesota?
    Eau Claire's Average Temperatures June-August

    HIGHS

    June ~ 79 degrees
    July ~ 84 degrees
    August ~ 82 degrees


    Alaska, maybe not so much, but Wisconsin and Minnesota? Yep

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    Apparently sarcasm is too.
    Good one Stout.





    Although...

    That applies if you blue the text too.

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    Temperatures June-August

    HIGHS

    June ~ 79 degrees
    July ~ 84 degrees
    August ~ 82 degrees
    That would be heaven IMO

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    Until its -10 in January.

    Give me my 100 degrees in August anyday over that .

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    Until its -10 in January.

    Give me my 100 degrees in August anyday over that .
    I am originally from Northern Minnesota and I agree with you whole heartedly in this instance.

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    Until its -10 in January.

    Give me my 100 degrees in August anyday over that .
    You in Michigan, yet?

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    So American cars are much better, it's just that no one knows it but you guys.

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    So American cars are much better, it's just that no one knows it but you guys.
    yeah, i don't get it. every american made car i've owned turned into a pumpkin.

    every american made car.

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    I've owned three American cars and two foreign. The American cars were the ones with ty wiring and oil pressure problems, and they were the ones that broke down while I was driving them. The GM car was the worst.

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    So American cars are much better, it's just that no one knows it but you guys.
    No, thats not what I am implying at all.

    What I am saying is I find it disturbing that some here and a few Southern politicians almost enjoy the fall of the American auto industry and embrace foreign companies as a viable replacement for American manufacturing.

    Thats fine you buy foreign cars. Its your money, its your decision, do what you want. But the bashing of the automotive companies goes waaaaaaay beyond just bashing the management and executive board in most of the comments I hear at Congressional hearings.

    And to hear an American politician from Alabama sing the praises of foreign industry as a viable replacement in domestic borders is ing scary.

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    No, thats not what I am implying at all.

    What I am saying is I find it disturbing that some here and a few Southern politicians almost enjoy the fall of the American auto industry and embrace foreign companies as a viable replacement for American manufacturing.
    Great, then In wasn't referring to you.

    Thats fine you buy foreign cars. Its your money, its your decision, do what you want. But the bashing of the automotive companies goes waaaaaaay beyond just bashing the management and executive board in most of the comments I hear at Congressional hearings.
    That's pretty much what I have limited it to.

    And to hear an American politician from Alabama sing the praises of foreign industry as a viable replacement in domestic borders is ing scary.
    Well, he's from Alabama.

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