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Just let me know how long you have to say it until you start to believe it. I don't know that I ever suggested that Kidd's the problem on the Mavericks, but the trade that got him to Dallas is every bit as disastrous as people make it out to be.
Doesn't make me feel better or worse. It is what it is. We traded first round picks and our "future" PG for an older guy who is not nearly the scorer but is a much better passer, far more durable, and infinitely more intelligent on the court. Not nearly the disastrous trade people make it out to be. Kidd has been far from the problem on the Mavericks.
Just let me know how long you have to say it until you start to believe it. I don't know that I ever suggested that Kidd's the problem on the Mavericks, but the trade that got him to Dallas is every bit as disastrous as people make it out to be.
How the can you even know that? The trade isn't even a year old. If Devin Harris wins an MVP and eventually leads the Nets to a le, then sure, you can call it that. But as of right now, there's no possible ing way you can call the trade a disaster.
That's some of the stupidest I've ever heard. Not even been a year for this trade, not to mention Harris was quite mediocre last year in New Jersey. Let's see if Harris can keep his success up first (and stay healthy), as well as seeing what the Mavericks do for the rest of the season.
The best myth of the Kidd trade is the completely bull "Mavs were in first place in the West when they traded for Kidd".....the Mavs were in 6th place and in a massive tailspin before the Kidd trade...they did the trade to get out of that tailspin, unfortunately it didn't work.
We'll see how everything pans out this season and on. If Devin Harris plays to the God status Spurs fans have him at, wins a le, then sure the trade was a disaster. But not yet.
I almost forgot about the "Devin Harris & DeSagana Diop = Jesus and Jesus 2" at ude of Spurs fans.
Here's the current GOAT standings
5. Duncan
4. Kobe
3. Wilt
2. Jordan
1. Devin
Lay off the hystrionics; I'm not attacking you.
How old did the trade have to be? Those two first round draft picks are gone and they ain't coming back. Gone, also, are whatever free agents the Mavs could have signed in the offseason. Funny how you're still singing that "Spurs fans overrate Diop" song when your ing team went out and blew the entire MLE to get his ass back. Maybe there's some happy spin to put on it, but considering the Nets were just looking to get rid of Kidd, that trade looks like a gang-rape at this point. If Devin Harris wins an MVP or leads the Nets to a le, it goes from being disastrous to historically disastrous. If Devin steps in front of a bus tomorrow, all it will do is make you guys sligtly less depressed about the trade.
The boat the Mavericks find themselves in has them needing to win a le in the next two or three seasons with very little ability to bring new talent in, and that's going to be hard as , particularly since Kidd hasn't been able to make the team better (through absolutely no fault of his own). Trying to get value, or equivalent value from Stackhouse, Howard or Terry is going to be a tall order, and they're going to have to hit the chemistry lottery to have a chance to turn it around quickly after another midseason trade, particularly with a new coach.
You're arguing with a brick wall, man. You know mono will never admit the trade was a massive failure because of how much he supported it.
Meh, I'm not trying to catch someone changing their position and say "aha", but this doesn't look promising at this point. Kidd's been known to become a huge distraction when he doesn't get his way or decides that he needs to be traded. The Mavs need to get the ship righted in relatively short order. Howard's playing well, and the team seems to be able to play well without him. Perhaps they can get something for him and get a helpful piece in now. They're past the point of no return on the whole "win now" strategy so they might as well do what they can to gear up for the short term.
I remember that the Mavs were doing pretty good until Harris got injured and that was when they started to slip.
Just FYI, the Mavs had the same record as the Lakers and Spurs and were a game and a half behind New Orleans for the number one spot on February 13, the day the deal was initially held up by Devean George.
It's a when people check your facts. "Massive tailspin" = 15-5, even with Stackhouse and Harris missing some of those games.
Fixed again.
That wasn't the day they traded for Kidd, now was it? They lost again and fell to 6th in the standings. Nice try.
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Agreed. This was a pretty bad trade. I knew Kidd's old legs wouldn't be as effective as Harris's young legs. It's pretty simple. Harris is so much quicker.
Well maybe one day Harris will play for the Bulls, you will love that.
hi bulls fan
New Jersey loves him too much to want to trade him. Dallas might get him back at 35 though.
So the difference is one loss? That would mean they were two full games back of first place in the toughest western conference race in memory.
If it weren't so obvious that you are desperately trying to spin the trade into being less of a team-killer than it actually was, even in the short run, I'd bother to continue to shred your argument.
Not really. They would be a fringe playoff team instead of a for sure lottery team
Harris, Diop, one or two free agent acquisitions and draft picks to package with Stackhouse for someone else would have made Dallas better than they are now, certainly good enough to win the division, and could have made them le contenders. They've looked pretty good the last couple of weeks, a lot better than I'd expected.
The Harris trade was great for every team in the Western Conference not named Dallas. He has turned into a very good player and he's still has many years ahead of him. The trade was very stupid, and that is that. We can't go back and change it now.
Find something in my post that was factually incorrect. I know exactly when they traded for Kidd, as well as exactly when they first tried and failed to trade for Kidd, which was the exact date that I noted in my post.
You've proven your complete inability to be rational or to accept reality because you dug yourself into a postion a year ago and have flatly refused to budge from it. Devin Harris is turning out to be every bit the ing stud that you said he was up to the point that he became the lightning rod of blame that you ing bags always manage to find and run out of town. That you still think the trade was a good idea is laughable.
In addition, you've proven over and over again your ignorance on so many sports-related topics as well as your complete inability to have a rational discussion with anyone it's a wonder anyone bothers anymore.
The Mavs, with your negative spin, were in sixth last year before the trade. Now they're two full games out of eighth place. It's the best trade ever, Mono!
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