I do speak for all of them. Face it nobody gives a and decides to root for the Lakers or not because of your opinion on them.It's glad to know you speak for all Laker fans, it's cool that you are all a uniform body. That's impressive.
I think the label of bust must be understood in terms of the standards he is being compared to by Laker fans, that's what THEY probably mean. It's sort of unreal expectations based on current performance. David Robinson?
Get ing real. That's what I notice.
Exactly, for you to think that Bynum can't be a HOF player or on Robinsons level in the future is just absurd. As Allanon pointed out to you Robinson joined the League at 24, Bynum barely turned 21. At 21 Bynum is already a solid player and one of the top defensive centers in the League (all of this with limited high school basketball). He is huge with freakishly long arms and a nice soft touch. Not really a stretch to think he can become a HOF player.
And this is pretty much the problem, "It's sort of unreal expectations based on current performance."
You are basing your opinion on current performance and more than likely only looking at boxscores, while other people (not just Laker fans, but experts as well) actually watch the games and base it on skill set and rate of improvement. Just something for you to ponder and think about in the future the next time you want to try to evaluate talent
Yeah, alot of things COULD happen, he's been in the league three years. How about being a bit more concrete? Hurt a bit? Sure. Alot of players get injured.
But to just throw around D. Rob's name like that is quite absurd. I mean the kind of agility Robinson had Bynum can't even sniff, and that doesn't grow on trees to be picked at will. D. Rob pretty much could do anything. Sorry Bynum, maybe another comparison suits you, but it isn't this guy.
oden is overrated
Bynum is young and still developing. He is a top center in this League with defensive presence alone.
And@ you caring if his dunks look girlish or not. Which I have no idea WTF you're talking about
Really? Alright.I do speak for all of them. Face it nobody gives a and decides to root for the Lakers or not because of your opinion on them.
Exactly, for you to think that Bynum can't be a HOF player or on Robinsons level in the future is just absurd. As Allanon pointed out to you Robinson joined the League at 24, Bynum barely turned 21. At 21 Bynum is already a solid player and one of the top defensive centers in the League (all of this with limited high school basketball). He is huge with freakishly long arms and a nice soft touch. Not really a stretch to think he can become a HOF player.
And this is pretty much the problem, "It's sort of unreal expectations based on current performance."
You are basing your opinion on current performance and more than likely only looking at boxscores, while other people (not just Laker fans, but experts as well) actually watch the games and base it on skill set and rate of improvement. Just something for you to ponder and think about in the future the next time you want to try to evaluate talent
Robinson was never even the best center during his time. He's a great player and a HOF'er, but get off of his nuts already.
Really? Alright.
DRob was the best I could come up with in the top 50. Hakeem perhaps? Just insert a Top50 Center and I'm fine. Although I didn't see any of the top centers before the 90s.
As for concrete, let's go with:
1) 1st All Star appearance this year at age 21
2) 15 points and 10+ rebounds average this year as a 4th scoring option
That's pretty impressive.
Childish attempts at frustrating do nothing. But lets be honest, he doesn't play like Robinson. If you look at what i'm saying, do I ever say he cannot become a really good player? No, no I do not.
I doubt he makes the All-Star team this year, but he'll be very very solid by the time the playoffs roll around.
He's no where near the agility level of these players. Maybe it's best off we just let him be him. Unless a more suiting comparison comes up.
You already stated your opinion, we know what you think. And get of off Robinson's nuts. I'm sure he doesn't appreciate it.
Well he's actually pretty agile and athletic, so your so called "observations" are
So Bynum is athletic as Robinson? Fail.Well he's actually pretty agile and athletic, so your so called "observations" are
That's fine by me. I brought it up once, you guys keep bringing it back up again, not me
I do think he's EXTREMELY agile for a 7 footer
You actually said nowhere near. Fail.
He is, there is no denying that.That's fine by me. I brought it up once, you guys keep bringing it back up again, not me
I do think he's EXTREMELY agile for a 7 footer
If anything he's a much downgraded version of Wilt, without the ty compe ion. It seems that his frame, movement and tendencies are somewhat similar. Well at least more so than anyone we are trying to compare him to.
WTF?? Do you even know the game of basketball? Do you know sports? If the shoe were on the other foot and Oden was in his 4th year would Bynum be as good as he is now? You're too easy to pick apart but I'll try to sum it up:
YES, that's (your post) exactly what I'm sayingWhat an idiot.
Well lets see Bynum hardly played high school basketball. Did not really play as a rookie, and saw limited time as a second year player, before having a good half year in his 3rd season. Oden played throughout his high school career, played major minutes as a freshman in college, yet didn't play last year. But yet you try to paint it as if Bynum has 4 years more basketball experience then Oden when that's not the case at all. It's much closer than that.WTF?? Do you even know the game of basketball? Do you know sports? If the shoe were on the other foot and Oden was in his 4th year would Bynum be as good as he is now? You're too easy to pick apart but I'll try to sum it up:
YES, that's (your post) exactly what I'm saying
A bit disingenuous or just ignorant of the facts? You tell me.
I really don't care about Christmas day. I could care less about a meaningless regular season game. No he's not Shaq, Amare, or Howard in the paint but not many are. Yes he still loses position right now, but he's still young and a work in progress. As for Oden all he can do offensively is dunk, but if you're so impressed with dunking strong and looking like a man then go ahead and go gaga over it. Not really sure what your fascination with dunking like a man is.Be stupid and homerish if you want, but come Christmas day, if the Lakers dont win, and Bynum sucks it up like he always does against good teams, I wonder if you will be
I have to disagree.Be stupid and homerish if you want, but come Christmas day, if the Lakers dont win, and Bynum sucks it up like he always does against good teams, I wonder if you will be
1) Celtics will get hammered Christmas Day, they won't know what hit them
2) Bynum's playing well
3) Bynum's currently the 2nd best Center in the West behind Yao. Technically the rejuvenated Shaq is but his effective minutes are too limited.
In my opinion, Shaq is Bynum's only compe ion for the 2nd spot on the All Star team this year. It will either be Shaq or Bynum.
Bynum and Laker fans, myself included, thought he'd be working on his offensive game this year. Turns out Phil had other plans for him and is making him work on Defense first. Phil rarely call plays for Bynum, most of his points come off 2nd opportunities and broken plays.
If Bynum was the 2nd option, he'd be scoring in the 20s by now.
But I agree with Phil's way of doing things, make him a Defensive force first and then reward him with touches. Defensively, Bynum has been a standout this year and drastically improved Lakers D along with the Phantom/Ghost/Stealth.
Last edited by Allanon; 11-27-2008 at 01:58 PM.
Yeah, but as of NOW, Bynum is Brendan Haywood on steroids playing with a top three player in the world on a top five team.
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