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I agree, even though the Texans QBs have sucked Id rather have Matt and Sage than Vince. That is even with them combined leading the NFL with INT's. (or thats what they said on monda night fooball.
I really don't want a QB with mental in-stability to lead my team. If I had a franchise, I would want my QB to start from the first game of the season, and if he can't handle the booes, then he isn't the QB I want to lead my team.
I agree, even though the Texans QBs have sucked Id rather have Matt and Sage than Vince. That is even with them combined leading the NFL with INT's. (or thats what they said on monda night fooball.
lol, straight up haterism
then again, i shouldn't expect any logical reasonings from you. you love MMA.
I don't hear any of these stories coming from Matt Ryan. And no rookie that I could ever remember came in with the pressure Matt came in with. He was coming in to replace a legend.
LOL its a little bit of hate yes.....BUT I am against QB's that rely on their legs and cant pass. They never amount to jack!!
Brother, that's why they are called "skill positions". Don't get me wrong, it takes a lot of skill to do what Peppers, Freeney, Jared Allen, and Williams do. IMO, QB's & RB's have a tougher time being successfull early on.
Those guys you listed were great, but I'd say AP and LT were the only ones that were freaks coming out the gate.
yes, mma is weak and only for gay s who enjoy watching sweaty shirtless men rolling around with each other intimately.
*cue in a plethora of posts about how some random mma fighter could beat the crap out of an nba or nfl player from LEONARD*
Portis was a beast as well. I dont think it takes that long but there are certain factors of course like running schemes, Oline, etc... but I think some guys are built to be RB's in the NFL and some aren't. Bush isnt.
LOL no I didn't say weak for your opinion on MMA, thats your opinion and your en led to it. I said weak for trying to bring up MMA thinking it was a low blow to me when we are discussing Football (mainly Mario Williams) and others the Texans passed up for him.
RBs are usually the most successful/productive early on.
Bush had more yards from scrimmage, was the #2 RB (600 yards) #2 WR (750 yards) #1 return man (216 yards) and accounted for more yards than anyone else on that team other than the QB. The Aints were the first team to REALLY make the 2 RB system work (which it seems everyone is trying to go to now). He had 4 less rushing TDs than the starter did (10 to 6) and Bush actually started 8 of 16 games, anyway. Even so, he didn't score a TD until the 2nd half of the season. He got hot at the end and, yes, began to carry the team.
The uncertainty of how to scheme defensively helped Duece out immensely, which allowed him to gain over 1000 yards. Perhaps led is a string term, however, that very same team without Reggie Bush as the 1a back goes nowhere.
Aside from all that, Bush became the 'new face' and generated excitement and celebration among New Orleans Saints fans who had just suffered thru Katrina and didn't have a team or a stadium the year prior.
No they weren't.
And they weren't even the most productive duo in that same year.
This is wrong on so many levels that I don't know where to begin.
That's great and all, but fact was, it was Drew Brees' that did the leading and winning for the team. It's a shame Bush got all the attention back then, when Brees' was the man. However, that has changed since, cuz now everyone knows it's Brees' team, as well as what a fraud Bush really is, (in comparison to all the hype he got as being the next Barry, better than LT, etc...) and that he is nothing more than a special teams and situational offensive player.
Bush is without question, the most overhyped player in NFL history.
I don't know, people were blowing massive wads over how awesome Michael Vick was supposed to be. He was Steve Young, Joe Montana, Barry Sanders, Bo Jackson, Tom Brady, Jim Brown, Michael Jordan, Joe Namath, Deion Sanders, and Jesus all wrapped into one man.
Most overhyped in a while anyway.
If Bush would've went to somewhere like Florida State, some people on this forum wouldn't show nearly as much hate for him.
If Bush went to Florida State, he wouldn't have had Leinart, White, Jarrett, and Smith surrounding him and hiding all his flaws.
Leinart? Seriously.
Vick actually led his team to the playoffs, and never lost in the first round either, beating a 12-4 Packers team at Lambeau, as well as stomping the out of a pretty solid Rams team and getting to the NFC Championship game.
I actually think Percy Harvin will be better than Bush in the pros.
I'd love the Lions to use a mid round pick on him.
The Texans would be able to silence their critics over the Mario Williams pick if not for the fact that they nevertheless are perennial losers.
If Vince Young were the ans' starting QB, they would be 7-5 or 8-4, and Vince's apologists would be explaining to us that despite being the lowest-rated QB in the NFL, the ans' record proves he's a "winner," and his stats are only lousy because his receivers suck.
Is Vince Young still alive, has anybody actually seen him in the last 9 weeks?
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