Manu Is The Top Clutch Performer According To Forbes.com

[Brazil]

he's a choke artist since the 2003 nba finals ; everything he's done after that is not important.

thanks for the reminder sometimes I forget.

[kace]

Does that site also sho FGM-FGA? Cuz if Manu is shooting 4-10 and Tony is 2-3, that's not fair. TP could miss 7 clutch shots and then be only half as good, ya know?

yes, there are these stats but only per 48 minutes i think (but still in clutch time). they are:

PO 2008 :

Manu: 5.7/19.9
Tony: 9.1/18.2
Tim: 13.4/26.7

PO 2007:

Manu: 4.3/15.9
Tony: 10.2/17.5
Tim: 9.3/21.7

PO 2006:

Manu: 7.7/21.3
Tony: 7.4/16.4
Tim: 8.5/22.9

so manu and tony shoot as much and tim shot a little more in clutch time.

[TMTTRIO]

Manu is not the best shooter in clutch time but he does more than that. It seems like he always comes up big in other things like getting important rebounds, steals, assists, shots, and Freethrows that don't always appear and that has changed the game around when we really needed it.

[Fingaroll44]

any article about clutchness that mentions Hedo Turkoglu on it instantly loses its credibility

Normally I'd agree but since he LEFT the Spurs and went to Orlando he has hit a few buzzer beaters. A friend and I were both voicing our displeasure to each other about that very thing. He goes to Orlando and turns into Mr. Clutch. But when he was here we didnt call him Hedo...we called him Hedon't

[JamStone]

Manu has had great moments in the clutch, and he's been phenomenal at times. I think it's really attributable to his heart and will to win. The guy just hates to lose. Unfortunately, that has also led to mistakes in the clutch like the foul on Dirk in 2006. But, again, it's because he's willing to leave it all on the court in those moments.

However, I do think the dynamics of the team really do help his clutch statistics. How many teams are going to leave Duncan and Parker to double team Manu? And, of course, the Spurs have traditionally had good three point shooting at the other two positions with Horry and Bowen and Finley and Barry, so double teaming Manu and collapsing the defense becomes almost near impossible for any smart team. In those situations, Manu often has strictly one-on-one situations with maybe a little help defense that generally comes late when he attacks the basket. In contrast, guys like Kobe, Wade, LeBron and others will get double teamed and triple teamed well over 90% of the time in those situations.

It's still a great tribute to Manu that he can still perform well and shoot the ball well in those situations. I'm just saying there are helpful factors because of the team he's on.

[kace]

Manu has had great moments in the clutch, and he's been phenomenal at times. I think it's really attributable to his heart and will to win. The guy just hates to lose. Unfortunately, that has also led to mistakes in the clutch like the foul on Dirk in 2006. But, again, it's because he's willing to leave it all on the court in those moments.

However, I do think the dynamics of the team really do help his clutch statistics. How many teams are going to leave Duncan and Parker to double team Manu? And, of course, the Spurs have traditionally had good three point shooting at the other two positions with Horry and Bowen and Finley and Barry, so double teaming Manu and collapsing the defense becomes almost near impossible for any smart team. In those situations, Manu often has strictly one-on-one situations with maybe a little help defense that generally comes late when he attacks the basket. In contrast, guys like Kobe, Wade, LeBron and others will get double teamed and triple teamed well over 90% of the time in those situations.

It's still a great tribute to Manu that he can still perform well and shoot the ball well in those situations. I'm just saying there are helpful factors because of the team he's on.

we all know it's good to have manu on our team. but i don't think he's more doubled than tim and tony.

[kace]

Manu is not the best shooter in clutch time but he does more than that. It seems like he always comes up big in other things like getting important rebounds, steals, assists, shots, and Freethrows that don't always appear and that has changed the game around when we really needed it.

rebounds, steals, assists, shots and FT all always appear in stats. and they're not giving any advantage to manu compared to tony and tim.

for the TO and assists, in clutch time for the two last PO (07 and 08), we have:

Tim: 6 TO and 6 ass
Tony: 5 TO and 7 ass
Manu: 7 TO and 4 ass

[JamStone]

we all know it's good to have manu on our team. but i don't think he's more doubled than tim and tony.

I don't think you read my post correctly, because that's not what I wrote.

[kace]

I don't think you read my post correctly, because that's not what I wrote.

my bad.

so, i agree with you.

[hitmanyr2k]

Normally I'd agree but since he LEFT the Spurs and went to Orlando he has hit a few buzzer beaters. A friend and I were both voicing our displeasure to each other about that very thing. He goes to Orlando and turns into Mr. Clutch. But when he was here we didnt call him Hedo...we called him Hedon't

Ironic that Hedo hits another buzzer beater against Portland tonight

[WalterBenitez]

clutch? come on people I on espn.com but forbes.com is about business, right?

I my mind (I'm from ARG) I will give the ball to Manu except TD were close to the rim, and TP weren't running in an open play.

If Manu is cheap, you should know my salary :P

[Manufan909]

rebounds, steals, assists, shots and FT all always appear in stats. and they're not giving any advantage to manu compared to tony and tim.

for the TO and assists, in clutch time for the two last PO (07 and 08), we have:

Tim: 6 TO and 6 ass
Tony: 5 TO and 7 ass
Manu: 7 TO and 4 ass

What about steals and rbs?

And damn, every stat in this thread points to Tony and Tim being more effective in clutch situations. If someone can't find a pro-Manu stat soon, I'm going to have to give him props for appearing to be the top clutch guy, even though he's signficantly worse than Timmy and "choker" TP.

[smeagol]

Manu Is The Top Clutch Performer

Not anymore

[kace]

What about steals and rbs?

And damn, every stat in this thread points to Tony and Tim being more effective in clutch situations. If someone can't find a pro-Manu stat soon, I'm going to have to give him props for appearing to be the top clutch guy, even though he's signficantly worse than Timmy and "choker" TP.

there are stats who are great for manu in previous years. the PER of Hollinger always showed that manu is very efficient. more than tim and tony, at least in previous years. but clutch stats in PO are not in his advantage.

anyway, stats aren't showing the whole thing.

there were some games these last years where manu seemed to be the only one able to save our ass and he took a lot of hard shots in money time to try to make a come back. It maybe didn't always help his stats. now tony seem more able to do that also. i personnally don't need stats to appreciate what manu brings to this team.

but i think things are very deceptive, especially for manu (in his favor) and tony (in his disadvantage) in matter of clutchness.

and i don't understand the "choker" tp thing in your post.

[concken]

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[TDMVPDPOY]

he makes more bone head plays then clutch plays.....2006 wcf game 7..... fkn bs