You're right. But, we do tend to treat earthly idols as gods...no? In fact, it was about the time He was carving this into the tablets for Moses when the rest of the Israelites were down the mountain praying to a golden calf.
he didn't say earthly idols.
You're right. But, we do tend to treat earthly idols as gods...no? In fact, it was about the time He was carving this into the tablets for Moses when the rest of the Israelites were down the mountain praying to a golden calf.
cos he's obviously one jealous mother er.....why would an all powerful god need to even make his rules in stone? couldn't he just enforce it through mind control?
but my point is, if some people NEED that crutch in their life, then more power to them...sorry that you think this world sucks so much that you find a need to invest so heavily in the next.....but as long as you don't force me to believe what you do, then it doesn't bother me...
god thinks a golden calf is a god?
No, but, apparently humans did and, he was speaking to them...
you mean humans were treating the golden calf the way god wants to be treated?
Humans were worshipping an idol as if it were God.
What's your point?
Religion and abortion threads never go anywhere...why do we bother?
sad that god thinks he's only worth the same worship as a golden calf.
why make it a commandment? doesn't make sense, at all. kinda sounds weak and whiny.What's your point?
do you think god should sound weak and whiny?
you mean kill the racket once and for all?Religion and abortion threads never go anywhere...
I think it's normal to wonder. I believe in God and Christianity but I would lying if I told you I never had doubts. It's a hard thing to have 100% faith in something.
But I agree with you in a sense that I see the world around us with all its complexities and functions and think that there has to be a Creator. To me, that makes sense. I know to others, it doesn't at all. Also in others' defense, maybe it isn't the Christian God (although personally I do think it is).
Religion isn't something to go by however. You will always see Christians as hypocrites because they are striving to live a lifestyle that is essentially impossible in this life (according to the Bible). Humans will always ruin religion because humans are flawed. And I think a lot of Christians definitely misconstrue the Bible and make it something it's not in order to justify their actions. It happens.
I was raised pretty strong Christian, and then like you, I quit going to church at around 15 because I thought it was full of hypocrites and I witnessed firsthand the duplicity of church members. I spent the next two years agnostic and very very anti-church and anti-God. And then within the past 4-5 months I've changed a lot and I have gone back to my original beliefs. So I can understand your thinking. I think you have to believe what you feel in your heart (or head) is the thing to believe. That differs for everyone.
church is the worst place to worship.
? i heard was hot.
I've heard your story many times during my paths and travels. I advise you to join your local order of the Golden Dawn. It worked for Crowley. Kinda.
If you live in the San Antonio area, tune to 89.7 FM. This station has several call in shows. The best ones for your question might be the one at 2 to 3 pm on Thursday or Friday or the one at 5 to 7 pm on Thursday. If in the Dallas area, the station is 910 AM, same times and days.
Ever notice how athiests are, more times than not, as religiously zealous in their position as are many fundamentalist Christians?
I was born and raised Catholic, around 15 or 16 I determined that the Catholics sucked. I couldn't stand church and I stopped going. When I was 23, my Grandmother died. She was the best person I ever knew in my life so far and she went to church every single day of her adult life. After she passed, I refused to accept my belief that religion is a bunch of crap because I don't want to believe that she is just dead and gone. I pray every night to her and Jesus because more than anything I hope she is living the good life somewhere.
Having said that, I don't get bothered by Athiest folk, because I too was one, and the only reason I'm not now is because I hope that my grandmother is having a good time because she ing deserves it.
Also, I'm typing this while pooping.
I do think there is a god but I don't think he is some swinging sitting on a cloud (or a he for that matter). Past that point it is just all a big damn mystery to me. The Christian stuff is just bronze age supers ion that doesn't stand up to rational thought (like whott said). I think Jesus was trying to get the thought across that you did not have to go through established religion to have a relationship with god and he got whacked for it. Extreme dogma and mega-churches was exactly what he was preaching against, most likely. I doubt he was making claims to be any more of a deity than anyone else. If you drill religion in the head of a child before they are capable of critical thought it is hard as for them to ever think objectively. I am trying to protect my son from religious dogma until he is mature enough to call BS on it. Maybe we got stuck with a beginner god and it was a bit of a fvck-up. That's why children get cancer and crap like that.
Seriously. I mean I can count just as many wars begun by atheists for atheistic reasons as I can wars begun by christians for christian reasons.
what, did you skip Sunday School as a kid?
I think you are confusing God with intelligent design, which in it's base form is not the same thing.
I see a tower and know from experiece that it was (loosely) intelligently designed. Man has even gotten to the point where we can create other life forms in labs.
I have not, however, witnessed matter springing from non-matter on it's own. I therefore have no problem with an intelligent design theory for the universe.
That's not to say though that means that an all powerful omnipotent, omniscient God is the source of that design.
I've seen some dumbasses create some pretty cool stuff myself.
really?
name one war on religion started by an atheist...just one...
the closest thing would be mao's cultural revolution, but that wasn't even an attack on religion as much as on old eastern culture that he felt was keeping his people behind the times...
compare that to....
the crusades, the war on terror, the spanish inquistions, the american revolution(the pilgrims first came here for religious freedom, right?), northern ireland, basically whats going on in the entire continent of africa, indi-paki war, well basically you can name or relate every war in the history of man with the exception of vietnam, korea, some campaigns in ww1 & 2, and the spanish-american war to some religious zealot who thought that his god had a bigger wang and needed to be bowed in front of...i can't wait til we as a race are past this blot in our history...
Keep waiting...it'll never happen.
you may be right, and thats sad....
at least one day jesus/muhammad will go the same way as zeus, thor, tezcatlipoca, etc...
in the next 200-700 years maybe l.ron and joseph smith will be at their place and the next church will worship me................................................ .
here we go again...
What do I believe:
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;
He descended into .
The third day He arose again from the dead;
He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
Catholics assemble!!!!!!
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)