Smoking ban extended to bars and pool halls in Corpus Christi

[BacktoBasics]

blake will be all over hypocrate.

At this point we can argue forever. I just want to run him. He's too stupid to ever listen or compromise.

I'm willing to give him 90% or more of what he wants. He's a narrowminded selfish piece of .

[Blake]

We are never going to convince Blake because he believes things that are wrong. He simply will never understand.

Here is a short list of what he'll never get.

1. A cons utional right to make an individual choice. He the government to make his choices for him.

No, I don't want my government to choose my meal for me or which house I can buy, but I do like that the government says that restaurant owners have to store my food at certain temperatures.

2. A business is still private property. He'll never get this.

Unless B2B says that that business owner must compromise with him regarding his own particular form of smoking bans.

3. You do not have a right to enter a business you have the choice to enter at the descretion of the owner and can be removed at any time. Still hasn't gotten this

Unless the business owner comes up to me and tells me to leave, I have every right to enter. Not sure how you dont get that.

Even you agree that a smoker that lights up in a public place during the day must go.

4. Compromise. He has no concept of give and take.

I understand compromise completely unless the health and well being of the public is at risk due to the acts of a 2nd party. Then there is no compromise.

5. He thinks this Country is founded on democracy of the few not individual rights and free will.

newsflash buddy: YOU are in the minority here regarding smoking bans.......not me.

6. He doesn't understand the word hypocrate and how its defined and used.

You can't even spell hypocrite.

7. Has no concept of free will and the ability to exercise it.

Free will is nice until it endangers someone else. That's why we have laws that say you do not have the free will to harm someone else.

8. He will never see how his sense of en lement is fundamentally wrong and goes against what this Country is founded on.

I didn't realize our country was founded on compromise.

Blake is the most narrowminded idiotic dictatorlike thought process driven asshole we might have ever encountered outside of Angel Luv.

Blake is an ant, a soldier, not a liberator. Do what is told not what is right. Minions like yourself have supported the causes of the few so much to the point where your fellow hard working peers are now slaves to our government instead of being protected by it. You are supporting the very machine that inslaves you because you've removed your ability to think rationally about what is a right and what isn't.

yes, I am a dictatrolike ant soldier because I don't want a cancerous cloud hanging over me at the pool hall.

makes perfect sense.

[BacktoBasics]

Yes you are unable to choose to not enter a smoking establishment. Completely and totally unable to not enter.

Why?

I don't ing know why you can't simply go somewhere else. Your selfish. You want to dictate over people.

You feel like its your right to be there under your social setting preferences. YOU ARE FLAT WRONG. Its your right to enter under the social settings set and prefered by the bar owner. Plain and ing simple. Its not your place to make laws only your place to refuse to enter if you don't approve of what happens there.

[BacktoBasics]

You feel like its your right to be there under your social setting preferences. YOU ARE FLAT WRONG. Its your right to enter under the social settings set and prefered by the bar owner. Plain and ing simple. Its not your place to make laws only your place to refuse to enter if you don't approve of what happens there.

[BacktoBasics]

Stop acting you're forced to be there.

[Blake]

blake will be all over hypocrate.

dang, you called it

[BacktoBasics]

Stop acting like a privilege is a right.

[BacktoBasics]

-You feel like its your right to be there under your social setting preferences. YOU ARE FLAT WRONG. Its your right to enter under the social settings set and prefered by the bar owner. Plain and ing simple. Its not your place to make laws only your place to refuse to enter if you don't approve of what happens there.

[BacktoBasics]

Stop acting like someone forces you to enter

[BacktoBasics]

Stop your selfish selfabsord en lement at ude

[Blake]

You feel like its your right to be there under your social setting preferences. YOU ARE FLAT WRONG. Its your right to enter under the social settings set and prefered by the bar owner. Plain and ing simple. Its not your place to make laws only your place to refuse to enter if you don't approve of what happens there.

where in the cons ution does it mention anything about social setting stipulations.

Who the are you to make up your own rules saying that a grocery store during the day can't allow smoking but a night club owner can?

The only reason you are coming up with is "it's for the kids". You are the only one I have ever heard use that argument.

The real reason that smoking is allowed in bars and night clubs is because of the social stigma that drinking and smoking go hand in hand.

[I Love Me Some Me]

Why does it matter if it's private property?

The state isn't governing what is done TO the property, but is governing activities that take place on the property.

I can do whatever I want to my bar. I can paint it pink, I can have no windows, I can decorate it gothic style...the government could care less about your private property, and allows you to do what you want to it.


But it is well within the state's rights (actually, it is the state's responsibility) to govern the ACTIONS that take place on that property.

[Blake]

At this point we can argue forever. I just want to run him. He's too stupid to ever listen or compromise.

I'm willing to give him 90% or more of what he wants. He's a narrowminded selfish piece of .

WTF? What the does 90% even mean?

too much.

[Blake]

Why does it matter if it's private property?

The state isn't governing what is done TO the property, but is governing activities that take place on the property.

I can do whatever I want to my bar. I can paint it pink, I can have no windows, I can decorate it gothic style...the government could care less about your private property, and allows you to do what you want to it.


But it is well within the state's rights (actually, it is the state's responsibility) to govern the ACTIONS that take place on that property.

you fricking unAmerican jerk.

[BacktoBasics]

where in the cons ution does it mention anything about social setting stipulations.

Who the are you to make up your own rules saying that a grocery store during the day can't allow smoking but a night club owner can?

It doesn't. You do. You're the one who wants to control what happens there.

I'm not making up the grocery store rules. The grocery store owner should. Not you and not me.

My point about the kids is the fact that even though I think its all uncons utional I'm willing to compromise and I think most other people are too.

[JudynTX]

Blake, are you a smoker?

[leemajors]

most restaurants/bars are on leased property. just thought i would throw that in for no reason.

[Dex]

This thread makes me want a drink and a smoke.

And now I can't even get them at the same damn time.

[BacktoBasics]

But it is well within the state's rights (actually, it is the state's responsibility) to govern the ACTIONS that take place on that property.

100% right. Govern legal and illegal actions. Smoking is perfectly legal in all states. I respectfully request that the law be changed to accomodate those who cannot willfully remove themselves from someone else's vile habit. IE 90% of the public. Please make smoking illegal in publically open places where minors would be present since they do not always have the ability to make a choice for themselves.

I also ask that in the private setting of an adults only social establishment that you leave the right of choice up to the grown adults and the bar owners descretion seeing as how this will have 0 effect on anyone who choose to not enter. 0 effect.

This is a fair compromise.

[Blake]

Blake, are you a smoker?

it would be just like me to be a smoker and make this argument, wouldn't it

but no. Matter of fact, just had a chimney smoking uncle pass away in his late 60s due to heart related issues. He had quit about 5 years ago, but it was way too late.

[BacktoBasics]

most restaurants/bars are on leased property. just thought i would throw that in for no reason.

Great point. I suppose and could be wrong but at that point its up to the property owner. Period. Many homes are rented under a no smoking stipulation. I think thats fair.

[Blake]

100% right. Govern legal and illegal actions. Smoking is perfectly legal in all states.

Hunting with a rifle is also legal. Just not in a bar.

I respectfully request that the law be changed to accomodate those who cannot willfully remove themselves from someone else's vile habit. IE 90% of the public. Please make smoking illegal in publically open places where minors would be present since they do not always have the ability to make a choice for themselves.

I also ask that in the private setting of an adults only social establishment that you leave the right of choice up to the grown adults and the bar owners descretion seeing as how this will have 0 effect on anyone who choose to not enter. 0 effect.

This is a fair compromise.

Then I as a store owner say I want the same smoking rights because I say get your FARKING kid and your FARKING ass out of my store if you don't like it. Build your own FARKING non-smoking grocery store.

[JudynTX]

it would be just like me to be a smoker and make this argument, wouldn't it

They just don't know you like I know you.

but no. Matter of fact, just had a chimney smoking uncle pass away in his late 60s due to heart related issues. He had quit about 5 years ago, but it was way too late.

Sorry to hear that. My condolences.

[Blake]

Great point. I suppose and could be wrong but at that points its up to the property owner. Period. Many homes are rented under a no smoking stipulation. I think thats fair.

and homes are not regulated by the government and never will be.

[Blake]

This thread makes me want a drink and a smoke.

And now I can't even get them at the same damn time.

that's funny because I just want to go to a bar and have a smoke free drink.

right now, I can't do that.

see, the difference is that the smoker can go outside and puff for a few minutes and come back in.........I can't take my drink outside. I have to take it home.

....but I'm the selfish bas here......right.