This looks like bonner's line on a good night.
That doesn't solve the rebounding issue.
1. He doesnt play centre
2. I dont think theres anybody we could trade to get him
yeah, i have noticed that actually.
This looks like bonner's line on a good night.
That doesn't solve the rebounding issue.
Forget it, he doesn't have the aura that bonner gives off....And if Bonner evolves into Super Bonner, Bargnanny will cower in fear!!!
bargini is good he still has rooom to improve to a nowitski imagine
i would take him over bonner
who would we trade it would kind of dumb for toronto to trade for him hes a heck of a player
i saw him the other nite against houston
hes still devoloping
he's never going to reach Dirk..
I dislike him, but he's the most underrated player in the NBA..a lot of people seem to forget how good he is, just because the Mavs aren't as good..
Danny Granger is awesome.
I would trade Manu for him.....![]()
Easy. Everyone on the Spurs and their fans would rejoice.
First off, I don't even think you can consider him a bust yet. He's shown his potential. I think if he played in a offense like D'Antoni's he'd flourish. If I were the Knicks i'd try to actually go after him. But I don't think he's available. Fact is, he's 23. Raptors would be fools to get rid of him at this young age. He's raw. But when you watch him play you can tell there's something there.
About the best post in this thread.
I reckon Bargnani will discover his true game over the next 1-2 seasons and become a pretty fearsome player.
People forget how long it takes a lot of players to adjust to the NBA game, especially bigs. It can take 5 or 6 years to see a player's true potential realised.
If we could arrange a trade that doesn't touch our core (TD, TP, Manu, Bruce, Money, Hill) for him, I'd do it in a heartbeat. I think he'd thrive in a positive locker room with an excellent coach.
is he going to be free agent this offseason
MLE?
What do you suppose his true style is?
And for the stat buffs, which position does he do better at, SF or C? To me, he sounds like someone who could guard the Wests and Dirks of the WCF, but for all I know his 1-1 defense could suck major ass, I haven't really followed him.
Corey Maggette got 10 million per year. Granger is better than him.
Bargnani for um...
Spurs do not even have the pieces for a trade for Bargs....Dam.
Not quite sure yet - he can shoot, post, but doesn't seem to be much of a ball-handler so he's not great on the drive. He's put on a lot of weight so his post defense has improved, and he's also a decent weakside shot-blocker when he feels like it. He could be Sheed-lite if he ever gets his head together, or even better if he goes inside more and also develops a better drive. Hard to tell what he'll be, but I am intrigued by it.
5 guys, off the top of my head, who really need a change of scenery to unearth (or get back to) their true game:
Bargnani
Ty Thomas
Sam Dalembert
Sean Marion
Chris Kaman
It's good to trade some of our wasted contracts for him who is still not fully discovered. what the raptors need is one or a pair of good wings, and finley may be preferable to the raptors though he is old. I would even add bowen to this trade if necessary, but no way I would trade one of our big three for him. We should bring any trade into consideration except those that involve our big three. Negotiation doesn't hurt our team but a good trade can upgrade our talent significantly. As the raptors has vended their former no.1 draft, I don't think they expect too much from him otherwise they would retain him. here is a good chance for any other team to get such a talented PF. Plus, he can definitely help his team expand market in Itlay.
Kinda leaning your direction. But we all know Pop loves a big who can shoot from beyond the arc, over a big who can rebound and block shots. Well at least it seems that way as of late.
Not even close. I like the Red Rocket but hes not better then Bargnani. Just look at the Video games.Even the little kids know the difference.
Bargnani is the Anti-Spur ... and not in the good way like Stephen Jackson was.
-He doesn't try if he doesn't start.@ thinking how that would go over playing for Pop.
-He's literally the worst bigman pick-and-roll defender in the league. The last few times the Spurs have gone against the Raptors, Pop just uses the gameplan of putting Bargnani in pick-and-rolls repeatedly. During the regular season, Pop rarely targets a poor defender ... but he attacks Bargnani non-stop.
-He sucks at rebounding. The next contested rebound he pulls down will be his first.
-His at ude is crap. He pouts when things aren't going his way and struggles with any type of adversity.
-And while I don't have much of a problem with his offensive game, his scoring rate just continues to go down and down. He was scoring best during his rookie season. He'd need to average a lot of points to overcome his weaknesses ... so his scoring drying up isn't a good sign.
Bargnani could put up good stats on a bad team but I highly doubt he'll ever do anything for a winning team. I wouldn't want anything to do with him on the Spurs. He'd be a horrible fit defensively and his personality would have Pop going Sprewell on him in about two weeks. Bargnani makes Beno look like Tim Duncan when it comes to having a team-first and winning at ude.
I totally quote.
Zero (zero) defense.
I-don't-care at ude.
No balls whatsoever.
He wilol get his 10 ppg in another 2 or 3 lousy NBA teams over the next 3 or 4 years, get rich and finally head back to Europe, where he will continue his nonsense, loosing career.
Another Udrih, with more height and far less talent.
Bargnani had 21 points on 7 of 13 shooting, including 5 of 6 from downtown and 2-2 at the line. He also had 8 rebounds, 2 assist, and 1 blk tonight.
Why do idiots think that Bonner is better than Bargnani? It must be because they're idiots.
Bargnani is and always will be better than Bonner and I would like to see him on the spurs roster. He might not be deserving of being the #1 pick, but he has potential.
Are you sure Mason now is one of the Big 4??
How about Hill and Finley?
Finley is so hurt to hear that
Dude, Bargnani has been playing extremely well for over a month now. Over the last month he is averaging:
49% from the field, 81% from the line, 43% from 3, 17.3 points, 5.3 rebounds, 1.2 ast and .8 blks (which is down from his season avg.).
He has also hit 2 or more 3's in 10 consecutive games which is an NBA record for centers.
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