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  1. #26
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    lets look at it this way tebow is 6-1 or 5-2 agains there biggest rivals(fla st., ga, and tenn) vy had a loseing recored agains ou how is your biggest rival i hate tebow but he is the better collage player.
    you're a ing dumbass. thats what an oklahoma education will do to ya.

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    And wins. They were undefeated with a fairly tough schedule, unlike the cakewalk that Florida had this year, yet still lost to ing ole miss.
    Besides the le game itself, what game(s) were against difficult opponents in 2005? And take a look at Florida's schedule from last year.

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    they will say that cause your on a board full of horns homers, i bet tebow never tryes to kill himself after a bad game, also vy1-2 agains the sooner tebow 1-0
    Vince Young didn't even start the '03 OU game. Chance Mock did. He was 1-1 vs. Oklahoma dip

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    Uhm yes. You can't just look at stats. Tebow was the only one getting the ball down by the goal line, so of course he got all the TDs. VY had long runs in clutch situations

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaMEr3eVdIc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x91cuqTv1TI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8f9k8ebErU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28GAMybBj-s
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    haha I forgot QBs are supposed to get the ball in goal line situations and score 23 TIMES. How do you account for the 6 less passing touchdowns and 250 fewer passing yards in a conference where defense is actually played? You think because you post a few highlights that means, "Oh this guy I'm ing my pants over must be the best if I can find some random highlights."

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    I'd like to see Vince Young try to do that and not wind up crying on the sidelines.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsditoWmwNM

    Ya, I saw so much awesome defense. Must be really good to fall or a jab step and leave a WR streaking down field wide open.

    I stopped 3 minutes in and only saw 1 rushing TD outside of 15 yards. An old lady could have ran half of those runs in. If you are going to nut yourself over stats it's relevant.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsditoWmwNM

    Ya, I saw so much awesome defense. Must be really good to fall or a jab step and leave a WR streaking down field wide open.

    I stopped 3 minutes in and only saw 1 rushing TD outside of 15 yards. An old lady could have ran half of those runs in.
    Gee I wonder what Vince Young's TDs look like. Go to the 4:30 mark.

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    I'd like to see Vince Young try to do that and not wind up crying on the sidelines.
    He wouldn't have needed to run him over, he would of just juked to the right and continued on for a lot more yards. As seen multiple times in the Rose Bowl highlight video.

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    I'd like to see Vince Young try to do that and not wind up crying on the sidelines.

    Wow, it's like talking to a child with a short memory. Again, Vince Young wouldn't truck someone to get about 2 extra yards but rather avoid the defender all together to get about 20 extra yards. All I saw in that video was a potential injury that could have been avoided with some athleticism.

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    Besides the le game itself, what game(s) were against difficult opponents in 2005? And take a look at Florida's schedule from last year.
    OSU in the Horseshoe?

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    Wow, it's like talking to a child with a short memory. Again, Vince Young wouldn't truck someone to get about 2 extra yards but rather avoid the defender all together to get about 20 extra yards. All I saw in that video was a potential injury that could have been avoided with some athleticism.
    Well I agree he would avoid contact at all costs. But I fail to see how he could've dodged contact when his feet were held and the defender was directly in front of him. Maybe I should start wearing some burnt orange colored glasses.

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    OSU in the Horseshoe?
    haha funny. Claiming a game against a big ten team is difficult.

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    haha funny. Claiming a game against a big ten team is difficult.
    Fiesta Bowl champs. Troy Smith. In the Horseshoe.

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    Fiesta Bowl champs. Troy Smith. In the Horseshoe.
    Oh no not Troy Smith!!!!!!

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    Well I agree he would avoid contact at all costs. But I fail to see how he could've dodged contact when his feet were held and the defender was directly in front of him. Maybe I should start wearing some burnt orange colored glasses.
    Then I guess you haven't seen his highlights. He never had a defender hanging on to his feet, NEVER.

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    you're a ing dumbass. thats what an oklahoma education will do to ya.
    instead of acting like a why dont you point out what you disagreed with.
    you cant becuse it is fact, all your doing is make your self look foolish

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    And here is another argument. Considering the amount of punishment they would give guys like Javorski Lane and Stephen McGee, I'd like to see tebow try to truck ANYONE on that 2005 Texas defense. And yes I'm even talking about the secondary with Aaron Ross, Michael Griffin, Michael Huff, and Tarell Brown. I guarentee you he'd start to think twice about lowering his shoulders

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    Vince Young didn't even start the '03 OU game. Chance Mock did. He was 1-1 vs. Oklahoma dip
    i was at that game and vy played way more than good ol chance mock did but thats fine in the 3 years vince (i wanna kill myself cause i cant beat out a drunk for a starting qb job young) was at texas his team was 1-2 agains ou. by the best part of the 03 game was vy fumbleing on the 1 yard line and takeing points away from his team.

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    instead of acting like a why dont you point out what you disagreed with.
    you cant becuse it is fact, all your doing is make your self look foolish
    No, you're a dumbass because he was really 1-1 against OU and lost to the team that went to the championship game.

  20. #45
    i was at that game and vy played way more than good ol chance mock did but thats fine in the 3 years vince (i wanna kill myself cause i cant beat out a drunk for a starting qb job young) was at texas his team was 1-2 agains ou. by the best part of the 03 game was vy fumbleing on the 1 yard line and takeing points away from his team.
    OK but he didn't have the luxury of a real starting qb like tebow had chris leak so comparing the freshman years is totally unfair

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    OK but he didn't have the luxury of a real starting qb like tebow had chris leak so comparing the freshman years is totally unfair


    "Waaaah! Stop making good points or I'm telling!"

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    Each players stats in bowl games as a full time starter.


    Vince Young

    46/68 68% 447 yards 1 TD 1 INT
    40 rushes for 392 yards(9.8 avg), 7 touchdowns, long of 60 in 04 and long of 45 in 05
    VY 2-0, beat Michigan who was 9-2, also beat 12-0 and the "greatest team of all time" who was on a 34 game win streak playing at home in Cali.
    839 total yards, 8 touchdowns


    Tim Tebow

    35/63 55% 385 yards, 5 TD 2 INT
    38 rushes 166 yards(4.3 avg), 1 touchdown, longs of only 19 and 15
    Tim Tebow LOST to the Michigan team that lost to Appalachian State(on the way to a 9-4 season) and then beat a 12-1 OU team whose spot in the game was debatable and was on a 7 game win streak.
    551 yards, 6 touchdowns.

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    OK but he didn't have the luxury of a real starting qb like tebow had chris leak so comparing the freshman years is totally unfair
    botht qb's for texas sucked that day and mock was benched after the first drive of the game

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    Each players stats in bowl games as a full time starter.


    Vince Young

    46/68 68% 447 yards 1 TD 1 INT
    40 rushes for 392 yards(9.8 avg), 7 touchdowns, long of 60 in 04 and long of 45 in 05
    VY 2-0, beat Michigan who was 9-2, also beat 12-0 and the "greatest team of all time" who was on a 34 game win streak playing at home in Cali.
    839 total yards, 8 touchdowns


    Tim Tebow

    35/63 55% 385 yards, 5 TD 2 INT
    38 rushes 166 yards(4.3 avg), 1 touchdown, longs of only 19 and 15
    Tim Tebow LOST to the Michigan team that lost to Appalachian State(on the way to a 9-4 season) and then beat a 12-1 OU team whose spot in the game was debatable and was on a 7 game win streak.
    551 yards, 6 touchdowns.
    My point exactly. Vy was a playmaker during the most clutch times. And before you start referencing his pro career which hasn't even been that bad for a rookie, and all of his "mental problems" which have been blown WAY out of proportion, there's no way you can deny that given the choice of VY or tebow from their junior season's, any sensible coach would pick VY to lead his team.

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    botht qb's for texas sucked that day and mock was benched after the first drive of the game
    And because florida had chris leak, tebow was never thrust into the starting spot against there biggest rival who played in the national championship as a freshman like VY was

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