Disturbing trend...

[anakha]

speaking of the last few games

at the backpedaling

[Shastafarian]

I give up on these types of Spurs fans. Parker gets bashed after every loss, that's a given. But now the new trend is to bash him after any close game. The only time threads like these don't appear is if the Spurs win in a blowout. You win, New Age Spurs Fans, you win.

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe there are so many because they actually are seeing something? Both Tony and Manu were iffy late in the game tonight so I'm not sure the point of this thread. But have you ever considered you're wrong? I forgot who I was talking to...

[Kori Ellis]

the only player that had my blood boiling until the last minute of the game was Duncan. Then he reminded me he's superman.

Timmy came up big in the closing minutes.

But that's what being a team is all about. Tony and Manu had strong 3 quarters tonight. Neither of them did much of anything in the 4th. But Timmy and Roger came through late.

I don't know why Spurs fans don't just think that's awesome that the team has so many good players that anyone can step up at any time. Not every player is going to be a superstar every second they are on the floor. But it doesn't mean the Spurs aren't blessed with the players they've got. And it certainly doesn't mean that TP or Manu or anyone else is "choking" in the 4th.

[InK]

There is no trend

[underdawg]

this is sickeningly ignorant. (short memories)

you always want your best players in the game at the end, but there are going to be rare occasions when a player struggles. Has Hill developed enough in Pop's mind to put him in when Parker is struggling in a big game? I don't think Parker's the type of player that would sulk because of that. I think if anything it would make him work harder - it could be a good thing.

[RC's Boss]

speaking of the last few games

I'm sure if Deron Williams struggles, Jerry Sloan will go w/ his backup too. That's why you are on this forum w/ us and not coaching genius.

[South Side Spurs Fan]

Don't waste your time explaining. Earlier in the game when Tony was like 6-for-9, Spurs fans were ing about bad shot selection. It's just how it goes.

When Tony is the best option, he needs to take his. That is the case probably 95-97% of the time. BUT...Once they key on him (like they did tonight, by closing the lane and playing him tight), he needs to realize that and make a play for someone else.

Not every team can do this, but teams with strong interior D and good perimeter D have shown that Tony can be stopped.

As the season wears on, we are finding out that we have guys who can be trusted with the game on the line. When they take away our #1 (TP, without a doubt), our #1 has plenty of guys he can trust. Tonight TIM and MASE stepped up big, and saved our asses.

Anyone who argues that point is wearing Rose-colored glasses.

[RC's Boss]

you always want your best players in the game at the end, but there are going to be rare occasions when a player struggles. Has Hill developed enough in Pop's mind to put him in when Parker is struggling in a big game? I don't think Parker's the type of player that would sulk because of that. I think if anything it would make him work harder - it could be a good thing.

I haven't posted for some time, but I can't help but respond to all this ignorant crap (does that make me ignorant too????). You should all just chill and STFU before Tony demands a trade or tears some cartilage..... Trust me, you WILL see the difference when he's gone.... DUNCE

[BlackSwordsMan]

duncan needed 2 more asst for a triple double

[Kori Ellis]

When Tony is the best option, he needs to take his. That is the case probably 95-97% of the time. BUT...Once they key on him (like they did tonight, by closing the lane and playing him tight), he needs to realize that and make a play for someone else.

Not every team can do this, but teams with strong interior D and good perimeter D have shown that Tony can be stopped.

As the season wears on, we are finding out that we have guys who can be trusted with the game on the line. When they take away our #1 (TP, without a doubt), our #1 has plenty of guys he can trust. Tonight TIM and MASE stepped up big, and saved our asses.

Anyone who argues that point is wearing Rose-colored glasses.

He shot 9-for-14 tonight. So they weren't taking THAT much away from him. They just tightened up late and he went 1-for-2 in the 4th.

[BlackSwordsMan]

[DAF86]

Timmy came up big in the closing minutes.

But that's what being a team is all about. Tony and Manu had strong 3 quarters tonight. Neither of them did much of anything in the 4th. But Timmy and Roger came through late.

I don't know why Spurs fans don't just think that's awesome that the team has so many good players that anyone can step up at any time. Not every player is going to be a superstar every second they are on the floor. But it doesn't mean the Spurs aren't blessed with the players they've got. And it certainly doesn't mean that TP or Manu or anyone else is "choking" in the 4th.

Manu's performance in the 4th Q was due to Kobe overplaying him and Manu not doing a lot to get free. With the way Manu was playing I thought that Pop should've called some more plays to get him open like he did after a TO where Ginobili got the and 1

[timvp]

Did it ever cross your mind that maybe there are so many because they actually are seeing something? Both Tony and Manu were iffy late in the game tonight so I'm not sure the point of this thread. But have you ever considered you're wrong? I forgot who I was talking to...

No, timvp isn't wrong. It's not a coincidence that the least knowledgeable Spurs fans on the whole are the same ones who blame Parker for everything whether win, lose or draw. I can't think of a poster on here who brings solid takes more often than not who is on the "Blame Parker" bandwagon.

[RC's Boss]

When Tony is the best option, he needs to take his. That is the case probably 95-97% of the time. BUT...Once they key on him (like they did tonight, by closing the lane and playing him tight), he needs to realize that and make a play for someone else.

Not every team can do this, but teams with strong interior D and good perimeter D have shown that Tony can be stopped.

As the season wears on, we are finding out that we have guys who can be trusted with the game on the line. When they take away our #1 (TP, without a doubt), our #1 has plenty of guys he can trust. Tonight TIM and MASE stepped up big, and saved our asses.

Anyone who argues that point is wearing Rose-colored glasses.

When Mason hit that shot X-Mas day, who drew in tho defense???? I mean really????

[stxspurs]

I'm sure if Deron Williams struggles, Jerry Sloan will go w/ his backup too. That's why you are on this forum w/ us and not coaching genius.

hill was playing just as good, and i think his defense is better......it seems like parker thinks he needs to go it all and in the process slips up

[RC's Boss]

No, timvp isn't wrong. It's not a coincidence that the least knowledgeable Spurs fans on the whole are the same ones who blame Parker for everything whether win, lose or draw. I can't think of a poster on here who brings solid takes more often than not who is on the "Blame Parker" bandwagon.

REALLY!!!!! The shot Mason hit was a little lucky too. Same for the shot Tim hit. Outside of Paul, you can make a serious argument for him as 2nd best pg in league, and cats are complaining!!! Hey, where is Biggie????? You should rock that avatar for the movie dude!

[Shastafarian]

No, timvp isn't wrong.

shocker

It's not a coincidence that the least knowledgeable Spurs fans on the whole are the same ones who blame Parker for everything whether win, lose or draw.

I can't think of a poster on here who brings solid takes more often than not who is on the "Blame Parker" bandwagon.

because this doesn't reek of bias at all...

[underdawg]

I haven't posted for some time, but I can't help but respond to all this ignorant crap (does that make me ignorant too????). You should all just chill and STFU before Tony demands a trade or tears some cartilage..... Trust me, you WILL see the difference when he's gone.... DUNCE

easy now hotrod - read my entire post and understand that I'm only talking about the possibility of using Hill if Tony is struggling in a certain part of the game. To suggest that it's not an option is in fact ignorant. I'm not saying that Hill should supplant Parker, but I'm saying it would be a nice weapon to use in certain rare occasions if Hill is ready to handle it.

[timvp]

shocker

No not really.

Quality take.

because this doesn't reek of bias at all...

Name one.

[Hemotivo]

parker is playing better than 2007

[Shastafarian]

No not really.

nope, not at all

Quality take.

thanks

Name one.

first I'd have to see the names on this famed "Blame Parker Bandwagon". Can you produce them?

[td4mvp21]

What I don't get is that statistics are shown over and over again to refute this bull yet it always pops up.

[timvp]

first I'd have to see the names on this famed "Blame Parker Bandwagon". Can you produce them?

You should keep better track of your allies.

[Shastafarian]

What I don't get is that statistics are shown over and over again to refute this bull yet it always pops up.

"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics." Don't always believe statistics. I'm not saying any of these are faulty but relying on statistics to prove a point is very dangerous ground.

[Shastafarian]

You should keep better track of your allies.

Oh can you find me a post of mine where I blame parker for anything? Please. Oh and waiting for the names on that list.