Lebron James you are not and will never be the closer Kobe and MJ are

[stretch]

They lost to the Suns...who barely lost to the champion Spurs. There's no embarrasment in that.

Just like the Cavs lost to the team that lost to the eventual champion Heat, as well as losing to the champion Spurs, as well as losing to the champion Celtics.

that is the gayest way possible to try to slob kobes knob even more. you are pathetic.

[Allanon]

Lamar Odom is far better than any two players on the 07 Cavs combined.

Odom's my boy but was very disappointing and inconsistent in '07. Big Z was by far better than Odom in '07.

but to say that Kobe's 07 team was worse than LeBron's is just stupid.

It wasn't even close. Like I said earlier...I would have traded 3 starters Kwame/Smush and Luke for Big Z straight up.

You ain't winning jack with Smush as your point guard, and Kwame as your Center.

[DrHouse]

How did I know this thread would generate 3+ pages?

Thanks for playing the part in my little social experiment.

[stretch]

That's the most re ed statistic I've ever heard. "Game-winners?" So that basically means that the game was so close you needed a buzzer beater to seal it.

How many HUNDREDS of games did Jordan "close" halfway through the THIRD quarter?

How many hundreds of times did Jordan go on a run in the early 4th to put his team up double digits?

How many thousands of shots did Jordan hit when he got on a roll and buried a team so that the game was never in doubt with 5:00 to play?

Michael Jordan annihilated teams. He bulldozed and destroyed them. He never NEEDED to hit game winners because he rarely ever put his team in a position where they COULD lose IF he missed. Jordan didn't need to drop a three with 10 seconds left on the clock and do the "I have big balls dance" because he was so good, the game was hardly ever in doubt when he was on the court.

Lakers fans and children under 16 are the ONLY people who are going to say that Kobe is even in the same REGION as Jordan. This comparison needs to end, because Jordan was RUTHLESS on the court. Kobe wants the spotlight at the end, to be the hero. Jordan didn't care about dramatics, he would put you away when he wanted, where he wanted.

6-0 in the Finals. 6 Finals MVPs. Kobe will never TOUCH that. Kobe will never merit an actual comparison to MJ to true fans of basketball.

Havoc just completely bukkaked all over allanon and all kobe knobslobbers faces.

[Allanon]

Just like the Cavs lost to the team that lost to the eventual champion Heat, as well as losing to the champion Spurs, as well as losing to the champion Celtics.

that is the gayest way possible to try to slob kobes knob even more. you are pathetic.

Sorry . LeBron's team was much better than Kobe's and has been for years. Keep reaching though.

[ElNono]

Playing devil's advocate here for a bit, but Lebron never lost in the first round because he plays in the Leastern conference, where the last 2 or 3 seeds normally have a record under .500...

[stretch]

It wasn't even close. Like I said earlier...I would have traded 3 starters Kwame/Smush and Luke for Big Z straight up.

You ain't winning jack with Smush as your point guard, and Kwame as your Center.

Just like im sure the Cavs would have traded boobie, gooden, and marshall for Odom, straight up.

[stretch]

Sorry . LeBron's team was much better than Kobe's and has been for years. Keep reaching though.

lame.

i'm goin to bed.

LMAO kobe gobblers

[JoeTait75]

Playing devil's advocate here for a bit, but Lebron never lost in the first round because he plays in the Leastern conference, where the last 2 or 3 seeds normally have a record under .500...

Fair point, but at the same time the Cavaliers have competed very well against teams with far better records (Pistons in '06 and '07, C's in '08) with the notable exception of the Spurs in the '07 Finals. Other than the Finals, LeBron's playoff losses were in road Game 7's against a 64-win Detroit team and a 66-win Boston team.

[Allanon]

That's the most re ed statistic I've ever heard. "Game-winners?" So that basically means that the game was so close you needed a buzzer beater to seal it.

How many HUNDREDS of games did Jordan "close" halfway through the THIRD quarter?

How many hundreds of times did Jordan go on a run in the early 4th to put his team up double digits?

How many thousands of shots did Jordan hit when he got on a roll and buried a team so that the game was never in doubt with 5:00 to play?

Michael Jordan annihilated teams. He bulldozed and destroyed them. He never NEEDED to hit game winners because he rarely ever put his team in a position where they COULD lose IF he missed. Jordan didn't need to drop a three with 10 seconds left on the clock and do the "I have big balls dance" because he was so good, the game was hardly ever in doubt when he was on the court.

Lakers fans and children under 16 are the ONLY people who are going to say that Kobe is even in the same REGION as Jordan. This comparison needs to end, because Jordan was RUTHLESS on the court. Kobe wants the spotlight at the end, to be the hero. Jordan didn't care about dramatics, he would put you away when he wanted, where he wanted.

6-0 in the Finals. 6 Finals MVPs. Kobe will never TOUCH that. Kobe will never merit an actual comparison to MJ to true fans of basketball.

Nobody said that Kobe was greater than MJ, at least not here.

The stat is exactly what it is. Kobe and MJ have the same # of game winners. You can let it bother you that they're tied in this stat or not or just accept it as what it is.

[DrHouse]

I've learned long ago never to argue with a Mavs fan. It takes a certain kind of character to take the relentless letdowns that the Mavs manufacture season after season. It's best to just leave them alone and let them say what they want.

I think someone once told me arguing with a Mavs fan is like fighting with a midget.

[j-money24]

i would take lebrons supporting cast over kobes supporting cast..
you know why!
coz they play defense while kobes supporting cast play offense.
kobes teammates<lebrons teammates
kobe>lebron

[ElNono]

Fair point, but at the same time the Cavaliers have competed very well against teams with far better records (Pistons in '06 and '07, C's in '08) with the notable exception of the Spurs in the '07 Finals. Other than the Finals, LeBron's playoff losses were in road Game 7's against a 64-win Detroit team and a 66-win Boston team.

Lebron in general always does well. Just like Kobe, Duncan, etc. The thing is, when you play good defensive teams that are able to slow you down, who else can step up and play? I think the only two great defensive teams he faced in the playoffs so far are the Spurs in 07 and Boston in 08. The Pistons have not been the same defensive team since Larry Brown left. Lebron did good against the C's, so I think he's getting better.

[Allanon]

Just like im sure the Cavs would have traded boobie, gooden, and marshall for Odom, straight up.

In 2007, I would have done it. Straight up.

even now, some Laker fans want to trade Odom for Drew Gooden.

[ducks]

LeBron took a D-League team to the Finals.

kobe could have got atleast a w against the spurs in the finals
the east was very week that year
did cavs even face a team that won 50 game that in in the playoffs before finals

[Allanon]

lame.

i'm goin to bed.

LMAO kobe gobblers

Good night. We'll talk some more Kobe tomorrow.

[ClingingMars]

So Allanon fantasizes about stretch sucking his ? That's ing GAY.

+1

-Mars

[dirk4mvp]

I've got to let everyone know I'm here without actually posting something with relevance, so here it it.


+1

-Berries

[Kobe™]

[Lakers_55]

Here folks, consider this:

Never argue with an idiot.
They will bring you down to their level
and beat you with experience.

[DrHouse]

I just heard on TNT that Lebron James is 3 of 22 in shots made in the last 5 seconds of the game.

[JoeTait75]

I just heard on TNT that Lebron James is 3 of 22 in shots made in the last 5 seconds of the game.

So you can take Kobe in the last five seconds.

I'll take LeBron in the first 47 minutes and 55 seconds.

[Kobe™]

The Cleveland drought

[TheMACHINE]

As usual...the thread is about Lebron vs Kobe, yet everyone wants to compare Kobe to MJ, either defending or agreeing with it. Regardless if you think Kobe is close or not to MJ, the fact that the topic is brought up says alot.

[TheMACHINE]

I like to add that "kobe jockers" arnt the first one to bring up Jordan and Kobe comparisons.