morbidly obese people

[DarkReign]

You're going to open up the argument that obesity doesn't harm anyone but the obese person while smoking harms others via SHS.

...which is exactly the argument I dont want to have. I referenced the smell, not the smoke, for this very reason.

Unless of course you're on a boat in upstate NY.

right over my head....

[Blake]

You're going to open up the argument that obesity doesn't harm anyone but the obese person while smoking harms others via SHS.

seems like you are the one with the can opener

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

...which is exactly the argument I dont want to have. I referenced the smell, not the smoke, for this very reason.

Doesn't matter. See above your post.

right over my head....

On October 2, 2005 the Ethan Allen, a tour boat operating in Lake George, New York, capsized. Twenty of the 48 people aboard died in the accident.

http://www.ntsb.gov/pressrel/2006/060628.htm

[DarkReign]

it isn't because obesity is any less of a health problem than smoking...

it's that a fat person doesn't blow second hand fat in my face

You again. Try and stay with the thread. The smell of smoke, not the smoke itself.

[SpursWoman]

What I'd like to know, is whatever happened to the old addage, "if you don't have anything nice to say, keep your ing mouth shut you obnoxious prick .... your fat mouth isn't any less repulsive than her fat ass or him smelling like a wet nasty ashtray" ?

Or something like that.

[DarkReign]

What I'd like to know, is whatever happened to the old addage, "if you don't have anything nice to say, keep your ing mouth shut you obnoxious prick .... your fat mouth isn't any less repulsive than her fat ass or him smelling like a wet nasty ashtray" ?

Or something like that.

Agreed, thus the reason I said "as long as youre not saying it to the person for no good reason", to paraphrase.

But get real for a second, some over-weight beast talks some to you or busts on you in some way, the first thing out of your mouth is going to start or end with "fat ".

[SpursWoman]

But get real for a second, some over-weight beast talks some to you or busts on you in some way, the first thing out of your mouth is going to start or end with "fat ".

Actually, ing is usually the first thing out of my mouth. I've been the fat and the smoking ... so those aren't anything I'd ever use as an insult to anyone. Call it empathy, compassion ... whatever. Knowing how much it ing sucks to be the butt end of the bull . That's real.

ing or ing are nice, non-gender/race/weight/height/whatever specific insults that don't allude to anything other than *them* being obnoxious/rude/selfish/inconsiderate/whatever else...

[Blake]

You again. Try and stay with the thread. The smell of smoke, not the smoke itself.

stay with the poster. lionfan said it not me.

although I'd like to know exactly how smokers aren't treated as fairly as obese people

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

seems like you are the one with the can opener

That's odd considering I didn't make the original post and you were going to post that same type of response regardless of what I wrote.

[Blake]

That's odd considering I didn't make the original post and you were going to post that same type of response regardless of what I wrote.

oh ok. Next time just post my response for me and save me the trouble

[SpursWoman]

In any case, the bigger you get, the harder it is to do anything about it ... because of the actual physical limitations put on your muscles, bones & joints, not to mention your heart, lungs and everything else when you get to be so big.

There's got to be a point, though, where the other people living with them need to start bringing them some salads instead of cheeseburgers. They are committing manslaughter or assisted suicide at the very least, IMO.

[DarkReign]

stay with the poster. lionfan said it not me.

although I'd like to know exactly how smokers aren't treated as fairly as obese people

The Litmus Test:

Which group qualifies under the ADA of 1990?

a. Smokers
b. Obese people
c. Anorexic people
d. none of the above

Choose between societal level of tolerance, in that which below group is tolerated more than the others:

a. Smokers
b. Obese people
c. Anorexic people
d. none of the above

Of the below scenarios, which is most likely to garner the appropriate attention of voters/government to require a law against its occurence?

a. Smokers smoking in public places
b. Obese people taking up too much space in public places
c. Anorexic people being...well, anorexic
d. none of the above

I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I should since you're pretty easy to read, Blake.

[DarkReign]

They are committing manslaughter or assisted suicide at the very least, IMO.

Could you imagine the prosecution's argument at trial?

While I see what youre saying, under that sort of logic, a family member who knows about a drug addiction of a loved one is guilty as well.

And the drug dealer is guilty as well.

The worst someone would face is negligence, but even thats an extreme stretch of the law, IMO. But I am no lawyer.

[SpursWoman]

Could you imagine the prosecution's argument at trial?

While I see what youre saying, under that sort of logic, a family member who knows about a drug addiction of a loved one is guilty as well.

And the drug dealer is guilty as well.

The worst someone would face is negligence, but even thats an extreme stretch of the law, IMO. But I am no lawyer.

Oh, no ... I know it would be ridiculous, but seriously, I don't get these people. We watch those shows about those kinds of people all the time. Most of them are bed-bound, and loved ones BRING them the . WTF? You'd think there has to be some kind of crime there.

[DarkReign]

Oh, no ... I know it would be ridiculous, but seriously, I don't get these people. We watch those shows about those kinds of people all the time. Most of them are bed-bound, and loved ones BRING them the . WTF? You'd think there has to be some kind of crime there.

Yeah, I can see your point. But that is more an ethical violation than a lawful one. Unless of course said family member is forcing them to eat unhealthy or force-feeding it directly. Now I would think we were in murder/manslaughter territory.

But again, this would also include spouses who directly contribute to their spouses' alcoholism. , I personally know of a case where a spouse wouldnt let the glass get half empty in an attempt to....help along the inevitable "drink himself to death".

Really, theyre just complicit with someone's will to die. When you cant get out of bed anymore, whether thru lack of discipline or personal degredation, you signed your own death warrant.

[Trainwreck2100]

LMAO fat people

[Blake]

The Litmus Test:

Which group qualifies under the ADA of 1990?

a. Smokers
b. Obese people
c. Anorexic people
d. none of the above

Choose between societal level of tolerance, in that which below group is tolerated more than the others:

a. Smokers
b. Obese people
c. Anorexic people
d. none of the above

Of the below scenarios, which is most likely to garner the appropriate attention of voters/government to require a law against its occurence?

a. Smokers smoking in public places
b. Obese people taking up too much space in public places
c. Anorexic people being...well, anorexic
d. none of the above

I could go on, and on, and on, and on...

lame.

plenty of 'healthy enough' smokers and plenty of smokers walking around with an oxygen tank.

It's also pretty easy for a smoker to put out his cigarette in a public place. Pretty hard for a fat guy to drop a couple hundred lbs in a public place.

lemme know when you need a forklift to get your smoking ass out of bed and then you might have an argument.

Nobody feels sorry for you because it's a fast fix to get rid of the smoke. Put out cigarette. Done.

[DarkReign]

lame.

plenty of 'healthy enough' smokers and plenty of smokers walking around with an oxygen tank.

It's also pretty easy for a smoker to put out his cigarette in a public place. Pretty hard for a fat guy to drop a couple hundred lbs in a public place.

lemme know when you need a forklift to get your smoking ass out of bed and then you might have an argument.

Nobody feels sorry for you because it's a fast fix to get rid of the smoke. Put out cigarette. Done.

Yeah, but what about anorexic people? They dont count now?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

With the percentage of morbidly obese growing at an alarming rate, it's only a matter of time before legislation is introduced to curb the growing waistlines in the US.

[beefanus]

Social Security checks. You must remember, if they are obese the government considers them disabled. Thus, they dont work, they get a check every month and a nurse to come wash their ass twice a week for free.

thats ing re ed just give them a god damn treadmill and duck tape their hands to it!!

[Blake]

Yeah, but what about anorexic people? They dont count now?

I don't really know much about anorexic people and what their status is with the ADA. Maybe they have a real gripe.

Smokers don't have any gripes. Just because you light up a cigarette on occasion doesn't mean you should get the handicap plates.

[Blake]

With the percentage of morbidly obese growing at an alarming rate, it's only a matter of time before legislation is introduced to curb the growing waistlines in the US.

foods no. certain ingredients probably.

[DarkReign]

Fat people don't have any gripes. Just because you shovel food down your whole doesn't mean you should get the handicap plates.

Do you see the circular, exclusionary point here, yet?

(lol, btw, I dont want handicap stickers)

[Dr. Gonzo]

Social Security checks. You must remember, if they are obese the government considers them disabled. Thus, they dont work, they get a check every month and a nurse to come wash their ass twice a week for free.

You can thank the Americans with Disabilities Act, by Bush Sr, for the ease of getting a handicap sticker, making sure every public building is wheelchair accesible and that fat people are no longer over-eating gluttons, but people with a disease which causes disability, which means SS payments.

I'd repeal the ADA in a heartbeat.

Also, a lot of these people have enablers that help them pay for the food.