The Gasol Trade

[InRareForm]

hows that crittenton scrub doing?

[JustSomeJoe]

As a Lakers fan, I absolutely love these Gasol trade threads. They all say one thing and one thing only: damn it, Lakers are back... that's just so unfair.

Seriously, Sunday's game hurt some of y'all badly, didn't it. Hey, I know what it's like... been there. You started off watching the game thinking " ya, we're gettin' screwed by the refs but we're up by 1" by the end of the 1st quarter. Half time comes and you're thinking "ok, we're getting zero calls, haven't played well, but we're still only down by six... we won the last one, we're still here... we can do this." Then, the unfortunate happens. Midway through 3rd quarter it dawns on you... " , we're done." By the start of the 4th, the realization solidifies... " , they're owning us... the string is over... unless we get some talent in here, this ain't good... but we ain't got to trade w/out breaking up the big 3... , we're done."

At the same time, the Lakers -- those hated Lakers -- have so much talent they can't even figure out a way to play it all. They've got a young Center not even close to figuring it out and putting it all together that can still impact games against the best, i.e. the Spurs. They've got a PF -- the dreaded "stolen" PF -- who just also happens to be one of the better centers in the league playing backup C. They've got a 6'11" PF that started on a finals team coming off the bench, another young stud making nothin' who's starting to ball his ass off coming off the bench, and shooters just rusting away on the pine. Oh, and they've got "that" guy. You know... the "rapist." Sure, they might not make it to the Finals this year, or if they do they might not win it (you can always hope). But, they've got so much talent and flexibility that they can make moves, and they'll damned well will be serious contenders for at least the next several years... probably more.

And, as it looks now... the Spurs won't... which is exactly what this thead is about. So, keep 'em coming... let the ing commence.

By the way, Memphis shed Pau's $49 mil remaining salary (which L.A. was willing to pay, something the "other" teams with expirings "weren't" willing to do), and picked up essentially 3 1st rounders (counting Critt) and a damned serviceable Center for a compe ive price of... 1 GAME. As of 1/25 last year, they were 12-31. As of 1/25 this year... 11-32. Not a bad business move.


"They're young, athletic, long, deep -- they've got an inside game, an outside game, and they're going to be a of a team for a long time to come," Popovich said before retreating to his office, which Sunday doubled as a bunker against unpleasant reality.

If reading/hearing people whine about the Pau trade is the only price to pay to read quotes like the prior from the Spurs coach, then it's a price well worth it.

Commence ing!

[daslicer]

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

Timvp. Hey Lakers_55 believe when I speak for everybody you won't be missed. I have a feeling you will unfortunately comeback here with other lakerfans when you get bored on LG discussing endless threads about Kobe is the greatest or Bynum is the greatest center of all time.

[InRareForm]

As a Lakers fan, I absolutely love these Gasol trade threads. They all say one thing and one thing only: damn it, Lakers are back... that's just so unfair.



By the way, Memphis shed Pau's $49 mil remaining salary (which L.A. was willing to pay, something the "other" teams with expirings "weren't" willing to do), and picked up essentially 3 1st rounders (counting Critt) and a damned serviceable Center for a compe ive price of... 1 GAME. As of 1/25 last year, they were 12-31. As of 1/25 this year... 11-32. Not a bad business move.

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lol please, there were plenty of teams wanting to welcome along gasol's contract, stupid ass. there were better offers. There were much better offers. did you really just put (counting critt) up there? you should have kept your post count at what it was an hour ago.

[ClingingMars]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how ing biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

[thispego]

OH THE CONTRADICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

look pego... face your truths... you are jealous, your jealous for the facts that the lakers foiled the spurs attempts at repeating on 2 different occasions.. your jealous at the fact that the lakers are contenders again. your jealous for the fact that RC cannot draft or trade for anyone that can match up with bynum, gasol, and odom this year, your jealous for the fact that kobe might win it all without shaq oneal thus ending spurs fans only hatred filled argument about kobe not winning w/out shaq and lastly, your jealous at the facts that Gasol was traded to Los Angeles rather than SA.

lets just leave it at that.... Jealousy can destroy fan....too bad it has overtaken your sense of reality

can i chalk you up with laker55 as a denialist, then?

[DrHouse]

This thread is embarrassing. You all represent the worst that San Antonio fans have to offer.

It's a good thing I know most of them aren't like you.

[thispego]

So what do you call the Warriors getting Baron Davis for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis?

What about the Hawks trading Rasheed Wallace to the Pistons for Bobby Sura, Chris Mills, and Zeljco Rebraca?

Lopsided trades happen in the NBA and in all professional sports. This wasn't the 1st time the Lakers benefited from great timing and other GM's incompetence. Look at how they acquired Kobe Bryant, Kareem, etc. Part of being a good GM is being able to screw over other GM's.

they were both malcontents and not THE franchise players at the time. chris wallace is not going to come in after a pitiful 10 years with the celtics and start off his new gerneral managership with a bonehead move like this without outside motivations

[timvp]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

Anyone who has been on SpursTalk gets owned at one time or another. Shoog pointed out where he specifically called the Gasol trade out as collusion, which went against what you said. It happens to the best of us.

The pedestal remains.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

Too bad. You were one of the few Laker fans who can bring solid takes.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

I still don't think you are right. I said the deal was unfair. Unfair trade in the NBA = collusion.

But if you disagree, that's fine. You've held that contention and you brought up my name in this thread before I even posted in here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass.

Why would you get pruned or banned?

Let the true fans of this board see how ing biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers.

It's a Spurs fans job to dislike the Lakers. And vice versa. And Laker fans are given as much voice here as a Spurs fan. I'm not sure how much more of an even playing field you are wanting.

You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not.

That wasn't much of a "rag". Pointing out someone being owned isn't much of anything. And again, you were "ragging" on me before I even came into the thread.

The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

This Gasol topic has been played out. But you have to expect both sides of the debate to be emotional. For the Spurs, the "questionable" trade has made it much harder to add to their trophy collection. For the Lakers, the legitimacy of the trade could tarnish their current success if collusion is indeed proven.

Anyways, I don't see anything for you to quit the board about. I'll apologize for singling you out as getting owned in the exchange if you wish.

[JustSomeJoe]

lol please, there were plenty of teams wanting to welcome along gasol's contract, stupid ass. there were better offers. There were much better offers. did you really just put (counting critt) up there? you should have kept your post count at what it was an hour ago.

I DON'T GIVE A !

Seriously, I don't care... not in the least. I've got years... YEARS... to come of watching contention, and I get to watch the Spurs head toward suckage with little opportunity to turn it around at the same time. It's ing nirvana for Laker fans.

See you in the playoffs... commence ing!

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how ing biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

Wow. I should read the NBA forum more often (I assume that's where this guy usually posts?) He has nearly a thousand posts here and I didn't see any of them until this meltdown retirement post.

Maybe it's time for me to retire I don't even know who's who anymore.

[thispego]

As a Lakers fan, I absolutely love these Gasol trade threads. They all say one thing and one thing only: damn it, Lakers are back... that's just so unfair.

Seriously, Sunday's game hurt some of y'all badly, didn't it. Hey, I know what it's like... been there. You started off watching the game thinking " ya, we're gettin' screwed by the refs but we're up by 1" by the end of the 1st quarter. Half time comes and you're thinking "ok, we're getting zero calls, haven't played well, but we're still only down by six... we won the last one, we're still here... we can do this." Then, the unfortunate happens. Midway through 3rd quarter it dawns on you... " , we're done." By the start of the 4th, the realization solidifies... " , they're owning us... the string is over... unless we get some talent in here, this ain't good... but we ain't got to trade w/out breaking up the big 3... , we're done."

At the same time, the Lakers -- those hated Lakers -- have so much talent they can't even figure out a way to play it all. They've got a young Center not even close to figuring it out and putting it all together that can still impact games against the best, i.e. the Spurs. They've got a PF -- the dreaded "stolen" PF -- who just also happens to be one of the better centers in the league playing backup C. They've got a 6'11" PF that started on a finals team coming off the bench, another young stud making nothin' who's starting to ball his ass off coming off the bench, and shooters just rusting away on the pine. Oh, and they've got "that" guy. You know... the "rapist." Sure, they might not make it to the Finals this year, or if they do they might not win it (you can always hope). But, they've got so much talent and flexibility that they can make moves, and they'll damned well will be serious contenders for at least the next several years... probably more.

And, as it looks now... the Spurs won't... which is exactly what this thead is about. So, keep 'em coming... let the ing commence.

By the way, Memphis shed Pau's $49 mil remaining salary (which L.A. was willing to pay, something the "other" teams with expirings "weren't" willing to do), and picked up essentially 3 1st rounders (counting Critt) and a damned serviceable Center for a compe ive price of... 1 GAME. As of 1/25 last year, they were 12-31. As of 1/25 this year... 11-32. Not a bad business move.


"They're young, athletic, long, deep -- they've got an inside game, an outside game, and they're going to be a of a team for a long time to come," Popovich said before retreating to his office, which Sunday doubled as a bunker against unpleasant reality.

If reading/hearing people whine about the Pau trade is the only price to pay to read quotes like the prior from the Spurs coach, then it's a price well worth it.

Commence ing!

spurs won't be serious contenders the next few years? I'm pretty sure we'll be ok.

[ClingingMars]

LA really needs to stop hogging the kool-aid. It's like a monopoly.

-Mars

[ShoogarBear]

This thread is embarrassing. You all represent the worst that San Antonio fans have to offer.

It's a good thing I know most of them aren't like you.

Please don't make this your last post. I couldn't take two of those in one night.

[thispego]

Anyone who has been on SpursTalk gets owned at one time or another. Shoog pointed out where he specifically called the Gasol trade out as collusion, which went against what you said. It happens to the best of us.

The pedestal remains.

Too bad. You were one of the few Laker fans who can bring solid takes.

I still don't think you are right. I said the deal was unfair. Unfair trade in the NBA = collusion.

But if you disagree, that's fine. You've held that contention and you brought up my name in this thread before I even posted in here.

Why would you get pruned or banned?

It's a Spurs fans job to dislike the Lakers. And vice versa. And Laker fans are given as much voice here as a Spurs fan. I'm not sure how much more of an even playing field you are wanting.

That wasn't much of a "rag". Pointing out someone being owned isn't much of anything. And again, you were "ragging" on me before I even came into the thread.

This Gasol topic has been played out. But you have to expect both sides of the debate to be emotional. For the Spurs, the "questionable" trade has made it much harder to add to their trophy collection. For the Lakers, the legitimacy of the trade could tarnish their current success if collusion is indeed proven.

Anyways, I don't see anything for you to quit the board about. I'll apologize for singling you out as getting owned in the exchange if you wish.

timvp you puss

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe it's time for me to retire I don't even know who's who anymore.

"Hi, I'm Tim Duncan. I've been here 12 years."

[thispego]

This thread is embarrassing. You all represent the worst that San Antonio fans have to offer.

It's a good thing I know most of them aren't like you.

i'm just trying to help clear your clouded perceptions

[InRareForm]

I DON'T GIVE A !

Seriously, I don't care... not in the least. I've got years... YEARS... to come of watching contention, and I get to watch the Spurs head toward suckage with little opportunity to turn it around at the same time. It's ing nirvana for Laker fans.

See you in the playoffs... commence ing!

NIRVANA just like 2004 and 2008 right?

[anakha]

'Commence ing' sucks as a catchphrase, by the way.

[duncan228]

"Hi, I'm Tim Duncan. I've been here 12 years."

[ShoogarBear]

Anyways, I don't see anything for you to quit the board about. I'll apologize for singling you out as getting owned in the exchange if you wish.

timvp you puss

[IronMexican]

1 year anniversary of the trade is this Sunday. Hope I celebrate it with a Pitt loss.

[Kori Ellis]

One thing that I always find funny is that when timvp argues with someone, they expect him to behave at some higher ground than everyone else because he "owns" the site. He's just a fan like the rest of you and posts with the same (sometimes obnoxious) passion. There's no reason to get your panties in a bigger bunch just because it's timvp that's saying it.


By the way, he doesn't really do much to own it. He doesn't moderate or anything.

[ShoogarBear]

'Commence ing' sucks as a catchphrase, by the way.

How about:

-Are you rrrrrrrrrrrrready to b-b-b-b-b-b-itch!

-It's erin' time!

-Are y'all ready to ?

-Gentlemen, start your in'!

-Prepare to . . . !

[ShoogarBear]

He keeps Kori's lawn mowed.