welcome back manu

[vander]

so,If that's the case,Let's sell Duncan and Manu together while we're at it. Let's try to get some money out of them while they still worth something. I bet you would sell your mom for a brand new Plasma TV, or leave your wife when She is old and not pretty any more. You Bas .

Duncan's a different story, Not only does he continue to impact the game as much as he ever did, outplaying the other more athletic big men, leading the team, making players around him better, playing smarter basketball than anyone else in the league, anchoring this D...
but he is the face of the Spurs, a treasure, a Historic NBA player, you don't trade that kind of player away ever.

manu is none of those things, He's just another flash in the pan.

[vander]

really? I don't know and I don't really care how much Basketball you've seen in your life, but Manu Ginobili will be inducted in the HOF, He will retire as a Spur and his jersey will be retired too. Ginobili aint another flash in the pan, maybe guys like AJ, Sean, Mario Elie or Bruce Bowen were/are, but not Ginobili.

Sean > Manu

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Sean > Manu

I liked Sean's game. Sean wouldn't agree with you.
He's like one of the biggest Manu homers ever, and he doesn't even post on here.
Call or argue Manu overrated all you want, but he is definitely NOT a flash in the pan player. Killer-instinct isn't something that every player has. Manu has that will to win. Spurs are lucky to have a guy who dives after loose balls etc. will risk failure or dish the ball for the win over being glory-hog. That kind of grit is hard to teach. Any Spurs fan who has been watching the team since Manu's joined recognizes his intangibles.

Dude, you're just a hater - stop pretending that you're speaking behalf of a valid difference of opinion.
Either you trade Tim Duncan off your same reasons for trading Manu or you don't.

[vander]

I liked Sean's game. Sean wouldn't agree with you.
He's like one of the biggest Manu homers ever, and he doesn't even post on here.
Call or argue Manu overrated all you want, but he is definitely NOT a flash in the pan player. Killer-instinct isn't something that every player has. Manu has that will to win. Spurs are lucky to have a guy who dives after loose balls etc. will risk failure or dish the ball for the win over being glory-hog. That kind of grit is hard to teach. Any Spurs fan who has been watching the team since Manu's joined recognizes his intangibles.

Dude, you're just a hater - stop pretending that you're speaking behalf of a valid difference of opinion.
Either you trade Tim Duncan off your same reasons for trading Manu or you don't.

OK even if flash in the pan is a too harsh, he's still not in the same universe as Duncan, don't even try to make that pathetic arguement, Duncan is once in a lifetime absolutely untradeable.
even at 32 there's no one in the league who could replace Duncan, there were plenty who could have replaced Manu even in his prime, and plenty more now. the value he adds to the team now is no longer rare, but very easily replaceble.

[porscha]

OK even if flash in the pan is a too harsh, he's still not in the same universe as Duncan, don't even try to make that pathetic arguement, Duncan is once in a lifetime absolutely untradeable.
even at 32 there's no one in the league who could replace Duncan, there were plenty who could have replaced Manu even in his prime, and plenty more now. the value he adds to the team now is no longer rare, but very easily replaceble.

thank you manu! for shutting those xxxxers up!

[vander]

BTW, 22 pts in 25 mins tonite hater. Yeah He's replaceble and there are many SGs in his same lavel making only $10 M p/yr.
Good call

one dunk and the CoM are all pissing themselves

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

OK even if flash in the pan is a too harsh, he's still not in the same universe as Duncan, don't even try to make that pathetic arguement, Duncan is once in a lifetime absolutely untradeable.
even at 32 there's no one in the league who could replace Duncan, there were plenty who could have replaced Manu even in his prime, and plenty more now. the value he adds to the team now is no longer rare, but very easily replaceble.

I never said he's on the same level as Duncan, jsut that they're both unique.
and going off what you said, you can make an argument from your earlier post to trade any aging veteran player to superstar playing in any position if it means you can get equivalent strengths in return for whatever arbitrary position.

Manu has the compe iveness of Larry Bird. In tonight's game he dove after a loose ball, got fouled and elbowed still holding on to the ball, threw the ball behind his head to Bowen. Bowen couldn't grab the handle or keep possession. Hornets get the ball. Manu swipes at it again from behind, when they took their eyes off him. Manu gets possession and gets fouled for two points.
That kind of relentlessness - when one doesn't give up on the play even after the first lost possession - Is something VERY RARE. Maybe you're not a hater. Maybe you're just blind. It's as replaceable as Tony Parker's speed, or Tim Duncan's work ethic.

[MarHill]

I never said he's on the same level as Duncan, jsut that they're both unique.
and going off what you said, you can make an argument from your earlier post to trade any aging veteran player to superstar playing in any position if it means you can get equivalent strengths in return for whatever arbitrary position.

Manu has the compe iveness of Larry Bird. In tonight's game he dove after a loose ball, got fouled and elbowed still holding on to the ball, threw the ball behind his head to Bowen. Bowen couldn't grab the handle or keep possession. Hornets get the ball. Manu swipes at it again from behind, when they took their eyes off him. Manu gets possession and gets fouled for two points.
That kind of relentlessness - when one doesn't give up on the play even after the first lost possession - Is something VERY RARE. Maybe you're not a hater. Maybe you're just blind. It's as replaceable as Tony Parker's speed, or Tim Duncan's work ethic.

+1

Manu is a perfect fit for this team!

[it's me]

one dunk and the CoM are all pissing themselves

Post after post

[amy020]

22 pts in 25 mins so great
and I love that dunk!

[vander]

I never said he's on the same level as Duncan, jsut that they're both unique.
and going off what you said, you can make an argument from your earlier post to trade any aging veteran player to superstar playing in any position if it means you can get equivalent strengths in return for whatever arbitrary position.

Manu has the compe iveness of Larry Bird. In tonight's game he dove after a loose ball, got fouled and elbowed still holding on to the ball, threw the ball behind his head to Bowen. Bowen couldn't grab the handle or keep possession. Hornets get the ball. Manu swipes at it again from behind, when they took their eyes off him. Manu gets possession and gets fouled for two points.
That kind of relentlessness - when one doesn't give up on the play even after the first lost possession - Is something VERY RARE. Maybe you're not a hater. Maybe you're just blind. It's as replaceable as Tony Parker's speed, or Tim Duncan's work ethic.

You'll never be able to see it, the hypothetical alternative. you'll only see Manu making a steal or dunk and think that if he wasn't here, nothing like that would ever happen, that anyone else playing his minutes will never make a steal or create a shot or drive to the hoop sensationally. but you are wrong

[it's me]

You'll never be able to see it, the hypothetical alternative. you'll only see Manu making a steal or dunk and think that if he wasn't here, nothing like that would ever happen, that anyone else playing his minutes will never make a steal or create a shot or drive to the hoop sensationally. but you are wrong

Somebody is running out of arguments

[it's me]

but but but "but you are wrong"

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

You'll never be able to see it, the hypothetical alternative. you'll only see Manu making a steal or dunk and think that if he wasn't here, nothing like that would ever happen, that anyone else playing his minutes will never make a steal or create a shot or drive to the hoop sensationally.

I don't give a about Manu's dunk or steals. They're just bonus. He's a playmaker. Now you're just guilty of projection. I do care about players not giving up on plays and exceptional team players. Sometimes Manu is flashy, other times he's not but the results are the same.

but you are wrong

you're just reaching.

Manu is a ing winner. His appeal is his flair and that he has an underdog thing going for him - that is the cause for all the homerism and COM you about.
He's this frickin' scrawny white italian foreigner who dares to dunk on people like the other more athletically gifted SG's in the league.
Any SG in this league can put up 20ppg but might lack the compe ive combination of a versatile team player/role player/pseudo superstar who has the ability to get in the zone just like the Lebrons and Kobes.


You are definitely hating, that's like saying just about ANY NBA SG could win games and that guys like Robert Horry too were just "in the right place at the right time" during all those times he contributed a "little" play here or a "little" shot there. If you can't recognize that some players have other things such as BB IQ, tenacity, and court vision, unique to them, and that it's not just about replacing PPG in the boxscore, you are hopeless.
If you think I'm wrong, that's fine with me. As a Spurs fan I don't want to have to quantify my team's players solely on paper.
With your argument you might as well ask a Bonzi Wells to replace Manu or a TMac! They are proven losers, but hey - they've recorded steals, shots, and drives in their statsheets before, so obviously Manu is nothing special, especially when it comes to that kind of hustle during regular season games.
I doubt you actually watched the play I was describing in the game, otherwise you'd recognize that any other player that is less compe ive would have been settling for the lost possession in January.