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But for the sake of argument. YES, the PSS needs major improvements and that cannot be denied.
Kids just need discipline.
But for the sake of argument. YES, the PSS needs major improvements and that cannot be denied.
Too many slackers?
Kids just need discipline.
An online gamer friend of mine goes to what I believe is a private HS in Oakland CA. The curriculum he's taking is the equivalent of college level courses and when he talks about his assignments I can't help to think of how far behind the kids in the public school system are.
There's simply no comparing a 17 year old who's reading and writing about books such as Like Water For Chocolate and a kid here in TX who probably can't write a generic 5 paragraph essay.
These kids are slackers just like their parents were slackers. They will never amount to much.
And god damn its SAD as when kids can't pass the TAKS. Those tests are incredibly easy.
Ya thats true. I mean I ing read Gone with the Wind in 10th grade.
Do public high school students even know what Gone with the Wind is, much less read it?
The TAKS is reason A that I could never be a public school teacher, and probably the reason if I were to ever teach it would have to be on the college level.
Well, duh, of course there is no comparison. I don't have any problems with private schools. Send your kids there!! And I still like "To Kill a Mockingbird" which my oldest just read.
The point is public schools should be at these levels too.
Or if not on that level then just a tick or maybe two behind.
Not miles upon miles.
I concur.
The only way that public schools could possibly meet those standards in 2009 would be to give up universal education. Children as a whole are not capable of accomplishing the academic rigors of their grandparents' public schools, much less those of today's selective private schools, because they do not grow up in the kind of structured family environments necessary to sustain learning.
it's all about opportunity for the kids and the administrations willingness to accept bad behavior from students.
i know in my high school all the following were available:
Calculus AP
Physics II AP
Biology II AP
Chemistry II AP
English IV AP
most were done with the history classes and language classes by senior year...throw in an elective or two and you have a solid foundation for college.
of course...you still had seniors in remedial math and ing off in world geography...
but i digress.
I'm not sure what classes Kennedy had available when i taught...talking high level.
That was 12 years ago though...
I think i would be surprised to see a Calculus class in that district...or any district not north of Hildebrand. (that's the cutoff street right?)
You think it's limited to high schools? I didn't have to write one essay and only had a handful of group presentations in four years of college. Mind you, MSU isn't considered a top flight school, but Broad is considered a second-tier B school.
The classes were so easy I took two finals in the same time slot and finished them both within an hour. I probably should of went to Ann Arbor, but after visiting the campus and meeting some of the people, there was no way I was going to school to be a Wolverine. Besides the socialization and networking, college was a complete waste of time for me.
BTW, Kaz Fujita was one of my profs at MSU. From time to time, he used to bring in his father's old papers on the F-Scale and we'd discuss them, which was pretty cool. I believe he still gives lectures open to the public every Spring in Lansing. One of the nicest profs I ever had.
In my situation, it was reverse.
I started off with energy and wanting to change how my students viewed education. After a short while, all the teachers you would classify as "A" told me to be more like teacher "B".
All the veteran teachers came down on me for wanting to do too much. They introduced me to the concept of giving students a "Circle 70", which pretty much means giving a flunking student a 70 so that he/she can move on to the next grade level and have the next teacher deal with him/her.
Don't forget to add the stipend.
The base salaries might be the same, but they get an increase for the Masters and a stipend for being a librarian.
They get paid more than teachers. Trust me on that one.
Thank you for this post.
This illustrates some of what is wrong with public schools.
Oh trust me - I know damn well is not limited to HS. Someone posted above its more of a societal problem and they're right. Being educated gets you labeled as an elitist now.
Wasnt there a thread on this just a couple of weeks ago in this forum?
There is a way to fix it.
If we were to bring back discipline (corporal punishment and the like), ditch standardized testing, drop bi-lingual education, minimize the special ed programs, and bring back vocational education, America might stand a chance of producing well educated individuals again.
You're a damn good parent, Chalupa.
But, sadly, parents like you are few and far between.
Also, you're pretty much backing up what I have been saying about the pss. Although it's good that you go to those lengths to educate your children, it really is the school that should be doing this. It's their job to educate your children.
But, the truth is, you need to do this with your children because they're never going to be getting this in the classroom.
One of my old co-workers who moved on to teach in high school said that he covered a book called "Where The Red Ferns Grow" with his class. The funny thing is that one of my teachers covered that with our class in the 5th grade.
He said that he wanted to cover other literature, such as Homer's works or even that of Edgar Allen Poe, but his principal told him not to worry about stuff that they would probably cover in college.
Can you believe that ?
To be fair, he's got the lower end of students. But, that's still some bull .
I agree.
Wow I read where the red fern grows in fifth grade too.
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