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  1. #51
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    3 Rings, got!

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    As I remember, it wasn't a fluke that the Mavs met the Warriors in the first round.

    The Mavs actually manipulated the standings so that would be the case ahahah.

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    Dont give me that the heat were the better team in 06 its a 7 game series you n idiot. The Mavs aint good enough to win a championship your leader is a pussy n pg is a scrub

  4. #54
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    The other day I was thinking how bizarre it is that ever since the close of the Lakers dynasty there hasn't been a repeat champion. 6 years without a repeat champion after the Lakers 3-peated, the Bulls 3-peated twice, the Pistons 2-peated, and the Rockets 2-peated. I surmised this may be due to growing parity in the NBA, but then I realized it was simply a fluke.

    Let us reexamine the past 6 years and determine who the true champions were and who the fluke champions were

    2003- Fluke champion: San Antonio Spurs (60-22)
    True champion: Dallas Mavericks (60-22)

    Our beloved Finley missed around 15 games in the latter part of the regular season, hence it was a fluke that the Spurs had home court advantage. The playoff series was also a fluke because our beloved Dirk missed the final 3 games and Kerr for some reason got hot and hit a bunch of fluky bull jumpers in game 6. The way the season was supposed to play out was the Mavs defeat the Spurs in 7, and then proceed to the Finals to beat a mediocre 49 win Net team in a battle between the #1 O and #1 D, certainly more appealing than the snoozefest low scoring Spurs/Nets series.

    2004- Fluke champion: Detroit Pistons (54-28)
    True champion: San Antonio Spurs (57-25)

    The bottom line is Fisher's bull .4 shot in game 5 was a fluke, no skill at all. Some say the better team ALWAYS wins a 7 game series but like that confirms that indeed a team can flukishly win a series sometimes. What was supposed to happen is the Spurs were to beat the Lakers in 7, defeat a gassed/injured T-Wolves team in 6, and go on to the NBA Finals to beat the Pacers in 6 games.

    2005- True champion: San Antonio Spurs (59-23)
    This is a year where the true champion was indeed not a fluke. Our beloved Mavs were still transitioning from the Walker/Jamison failure of an experiment and coaching change, and this left the path open for the Spurs. Everything that should've happened in the playoffs this year did indeed happen

    2006- Fluke champion: Miami Heat (52-30)
    True champion: Dallas Mavericks (60-22)

    The Mavs were the better team, but the refs decided that an unconventional PF is less marketable than ablack shooting guard with Jordanesque skill. A bunch of fluky bull shots and fluky bull whistles denied the Mavs thatyear. What was supposed to happen was the Mavs were to win in 6. Also, Wade putting up the best statistical finals of all time is fluky bull .

    2007- Fluke champion: San Antonio Spurs (58-24)
    True champion: Dallas Mavericks (67-15)

    The Warriors getting an 8 seed was a fluky bull and then their bull H-O-R-S-E shots were fluky bull as well. What was supposed to happen was the CLippers were supposed to get the 8 seed and the Mavs should've won in 4. Then the Mavs beat the Jazz in 6, Spurs in 6, and Cavs in 6. Lebron would've been for our beloved Mavs, but our offensive firepower would've overcame the relatively unimpressive Cavs roster. The Spurs as we know could not beat our beloved Mavs, evident in 2006. Jazz physical style of play was always a problem, but we would've prevailed in 6.

    2008- True champion: Boston Celtics (66-16)

    The Mavs run by this point had come to an end with 3 championships in 5 years, and the Celtics with their bull trades were ready to win. They dominated the regular season from the very beginning and had the highest margin of victory since Jordan's Bulls. What was supposed to happen, Celtics > Lakers in 6 games, did indeed happen.

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    Bernoullin' niggas! BUMP's Avatar
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    Kerr and the W's bull shots were just the smaller flukes. The bigger flukes in '03 were Dirk's injury and Fin's late in the regular season, and the bigger fluke in the '07 season was the W's getting the 8 seed w/ a regular season of BS shots instead of the Clippers, Hornets, or Lakers.

    As much as people call the W's series a choke for our beloved Mavs, we WERE 1-6 in our last 7 against them, although 2 of those losses were off of fluky bull buzzer beating shots.
    this one wasnt even in the playoffs either

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZeLmcfdY

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    2007 - Fluke Champion : Spurs.
    True Champion : Mavs.

    No other team was beating the Mavs that year besides the Warriors who had them figured out to a t. Case in point when the Spurs players thanked the Warriors for beating them.
    No one remembers the would of, should of, could ofs.

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    this one wasnt even in the playoffs either

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAZeLmcfdY
    ^ That wasn't the same season. Mike Montgomery was still the coach in that video. Announcer in the video mentioned it was J-Rich's fifth season. That would have been in the 2004-05 season.

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    Yup. Fisher is still a Warrior, also.

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    That might have been the best Spurs team of the bunch - the Mavs were playing some ridiculously good basketball that season. Best series i ever saw.


    +1

    The Spurs played great ball that series, the Mavs were simply amazing and it is by faaaar the best series I have ever seen. Two teams playing at a sky high level, and being so equally matched, that was simply sports at its best.

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    ^ That wasn't the same season. Mike Montgomery was still the coach in that video. Announcer in the video mentioned it was J-Rich's fifth season. That would have been in the 2004-05 season.
    It was 05-06, but great knowledge there.

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    I stand by all my opinions. Webber's injury? Webber is expected to be injured. Dirk on the other hand is durable. That's like a team being told it caught a break in the series because T-Quitter is injured. T-Quitter is expected to be injured, so it's not a break.

    06 Heat series? Clearly bull , these Cheat fans obviously won't agree, , whose gonna complain about being HANDED a ring?

    07 series? Fluky bull half court shots. Matt Barnes for two weeks in his whole life figured out how to play basketball. What's the fluke? The years of evidence and hundreds of games that Matt Barnes is a scrub, or 6 games?

    Spurs fans surely can agree with me. .4 shot? That is some fluky bull right there, Fisher's shot took no skill whatsoever, and was illegal.

    Sooooo yeah, not saying the Mavs SHOULDVE won championships those years (except for '06, that was some officiating bull ), but they were "supposed" to win championships those years. This is what the thread is about.

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    Unfortunately, 'flukes', or unexpected events, are a part of sport and the reason why we watch. What fun would it be if everything happened 'the way it was suppose to happen'. Unless your a Mav fan.

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    mavs and championship just sounds wierd. their window has closed in this era IMO

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    Mavs don't deserve a championship. They ing choked pretty bad in the Finals.

    Their fans will always about the calls, but how do you explain Game 3? Don't say they were getting calls in that game too.

    Mavs are an embarrassment to the NBA & to the salary cap era (last time i checked they are $30 mil over the cap).

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    Mavs don't deserve a championship. They ing choked pretty bad in the Finals.

    Their fans will always about the calls, but how do you explain Game 3? Don't say they were getting calls in that game too.

    Mavs are an embarrassment to the NBA & to the salary cap era (last time i checked they are $30 mil over the cap).
    First off my good lad, the calls were bull in game 3 as well. in fact, they assisted in triggering the run.

    Yeah, the 2nd winningest franchise in the post Lakers dynasty is an embarrassment to the NBA.

    Look, you have your 2003 and 2007 championships. Enjoy them, you earned them (well not you but the Spurs coaches/players/front office, but of course it makes YOU feel superior to fans of other teams ). But at the same time, they're flukes.

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    pathetic

    Giving the Mavs fluke c-ships like they matter

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    The only flukes are the Spurs '03 and '07 championships.

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    This is why condoms are sooooooooooo important.

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    Va-jay-jay thread of the century.

    You do realize that Steve Kerr hitting those shots wasn't a fluke, don't you? He's only the ALL TIME NBA CAREER 3PT PERCENTAGE LEADER at 45.4%. Hitting 5 or 6 in a game just isn't anything off the bell curve for someone who makes their very living doing just that, especially against Steve NO D Nash. It would be like complaining that Amare beat you with 6 dunks. Duh. It's what he does. It's also not like the Spurs barely climbed back and beat the Mavs by a point or two. Spurs won going away, obliterating the Mavs on their floor. The Mavs cracked and broke when the going got tough.

    Finley missing 13 games in 2002-2003 also was no aberration.
    2001-2002 69 games
    2002-2003 69 games
    2003-2004 72 games
    2004 2005 64 games

    Mav fan has sunk to a new low. Mavs lose because they have nothing dangling between their legs.
    Last edited by exstatic; 02-05-2009 at 10:55 PM.

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    there are no such things as "fluke" les..the season and playoffs are way too long to have "fluke" les..

    Mavs fans are still in denial..they still blame refs for costing them a le..they still cry about it all the time..the fact is, the Mavs franchise is known for choking..if you choke away a 2-0 lead in the NBA finals, you deserve to be labeled as a choker..if you lose to an 8th seed after winning 67 games(LOL), you deserve to be labeled as a choker..

    it's pretty clear that the Mavs fold under pressure, and there's no reason to think they would ever win a le in any of these "fluke" scenarios..they clearly had their chance in the finals, and they choked it away..

    what an embarrassing franchise..

    Dallas Mavericks..years: 29.. les: 0..

    Charlotte Bobcats: years: 5.. les: 0..

    same amount, and the Mavs have had 24 extra years..how pathetic..

    to put it in perspective..I have the same amount of les as the Mavs franchise..

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    there are no such things as "fluke" les..the season and playoffs are way too long to have "fluke" les..

    Mavs fans are still in denial..they still blame refs for costing them a le..they still cry about it all the time..the fact is, the Mavs franchise is known for choking..if you choke away a 2-0 lead in the NBA finals, you deserve to be labeled as a choker..if you lose to an 8th seed after winning 67 games(LOL), you deserve to be labeled as a choker..

    it's pretty clear that the Mavs fold under pressure, and there's no reason to think they would ever win a le in any of these "fluke" scenarios..they clearly had their chance in the finals, and they choked it away..

    what an embarrassing franchise..

    You're right. We should all jump on a winning bandwagon like you did

  23. #73
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    Fluke champion: 2008 Boston Celtics. No Bynum or a healthy Ariza, not legit. Game 2 was the worst officiated playoff game since Wadegate in 2006.

    Celtics are one and done.

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    And the past 6 finals should be:

    Mavs 4 Nets 2
    Spurs 4 Pacers 2
    Spurs 4 Heat 2
    Mavs 4 Heat 2
    Mavs 4 Cavs 2
    Celtics 4 Lakers 2

    What should've happened with the Cheat was that they're one of those good teams that makes the Finals twice, but isn't good enough and thus loses twice, as was the case with the Jazz in the decade prior.

    If those Heat were true champions in 2006, they would'nt have followed it up with 46 wins the next year and a first round sweep, and 15 wins the year latter.

    Look at the Spurs, they've defended all of their les honorably. Same with those Lakers and Bulls, and the Celtics are doing it this year as well.

    That the Heat were unable to even win a PLAYOFF game the year after confirms that indeed their le was fluky bull .


    Are the Mavs fans still talking about the 2006 Finals? Let it go! The Heat were simply better at that time. The only reason they failed to repeat was injuries to Wade and locker room problems. The Mavs had every chance to win Game 6 but wilted under pressure. the Heat even had a travel called on them giving the Mavs 1 last shot to tie the game. You also fail to mention the Mavs in 07 lost to GS and in 08 lost to NO.

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    Fluke champion: 2008 Boston Celtics. No Bynum or a healthy Ariza, not legit. Game 2 was the worst officiated playoff game since Wadegate in 2006.

    Celtics are one and done.
    One is better than None.

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