Rasheed Wallace on the Spurs?

[DPG21920]

I think most of us fans are.... but Joe's only comment so far has been that he's not shopping anyone.

It's believed that he's mostly interested in using Sheed and AI for their expiring contracts for 2010's studs like Bosh and Amare. Which probably makes mroe sense than trading an asset like Sheed now for even a guy like Amare ... only to have him opt out after next year.

I'm not really expecting Detroit to make any moves before the deadline ... other than trying to trade away Alex Acker or Will Bynum. We're about 600,000 above the luxury tax threshold, and each of those guys makes 700,00.

This is exactly what I said. They can hit a homerun in FA next year, so unless they get a homerun player now in a trade (which there are not many scenarios, Amare being the most likely) they are not going to trade. The only other scenario is that they get a young guy who is not an impact player or great rotational player yet (beasley...) who is cheap and then they get expiring contracts as well. Meaning they get a young guy on a rookie scale contract and get to keep the majority of their cap space.

[DPG21920]

I thought you knew for sure that you couldn't do a 5 for 1 trade with a team if they don't have 4 roster spots open.

If all you were saying is the NBA roster limit is 15 then what was the point of that? Almost any NBA fan knows the roster limit is 15 .

Because it shows you that no matter what (before or after) that you have to cut guys/ buy them out if you are doing a 5 for 1.

[Ice009]

This is exactly what I said. They can hit a homerun in FA next year, so unless they get a homerun player now in a trade (which there are not many scenarios, Amare being the most likely) they are not going to trade. The only other scenario is that they get a young guy who is not an impact player or great rotational player yet (beasley...) who is cheap and then they get expiring contracts as well. Meaning they get a young guy on a rookie scale contract and get to keep the majority of their cap space.

Well you should have put it that way then. You could have simply said that the Pistons would not be interested in Splitter or Mahinmi as potentially good players and that they would maybe be interested in someone like Beasley.

I also seem to remember someone saying a while ago that some scouts think of Mahinmi has the potential to be an all star down the road. I don't, but maybe Detroit was one of those teams which is why I mentioned him and Splitter who just might be the best big in Europe right now.

Maybe they are only interested in somewhat proven commodities like your suggestion of Beasley.

[DPG21920]

It also shows you that if they are to buy guys out (3) that the Spurs can only give them 3 million total in "cash considerations" IIRC. So that means Detroit will have to pay for some.

[DPG21920]

Well you should have put it that way then. You could have simply said that the Pistons would not be interested in Splitter or Mahinmi as potentially good players and that they would maybe be interested in someone like Beasley.

WTF are you talking about? They could be intrested in Mahinmi and Splitter, just LIKE Beasley, although Beasley has played. They are not mutually exclusive events, they tie into each other.

[Ice009]

It also shows you that if they are to buy guys out (3) that the Spurs can only give them 3 million total in "cash considerations" IIRC. So that means Detroit will have to pay for some.

OK valid point. I'll say if they think highly of Splitter or Mahinmi they might be willing to pay for some of those buyouts. If we do a trade we also wouldn't have to match Rasheed's salary exactly, just come a certain percentage close to it which would probably put Detroit under the luxury tax and make them receptive to paying some of those buyouts.

[DPG21920]

OK valid point. I'll say if they think highly of Splitter or Mahinmi they might be willing to pay for some of those buyouts. If we do a trade we also wouldn't have to match Rasheed's salary exactly, just come a certain percentage close to it which would probably put Detroit under the luxury tax and make them receptive to paying some of those buyouts.

A traded player may be “simultaneously” replaced (i.e., in the same transaction) by one or more players whose salaries in the aggregate do not exceed 125% of the salary of the players being traded, plus $100,000

[Ice009]

WTF are you talking about? They could be intrested in Mahinmi and Splitter, just LIKE Beasley, although Beasley has played. They are not mutually exclusive events, they tie into each other.

You were basically saying they're not interested in Mahinmi cause he hasn't played much and Splitter cause it's widely regarded that he will never come over. Where have you heard this about Splitter? Last thing I heard was that he wanted to come over this season before than financial crisis.

Then you said that they'd be more interested in someone like Beasley who has played in the NBA already and shown some serious potential. I said fair enough to that suggestion because Mahinmi and Splitter haven't really played in the NBA to show what they can do.

[DPG21920]

You were basically saying they're not interested in Mahinmi cause he hasn't played much and Splitter cause it's widely regarded that he will never come over. Where have you heard this about Splitter? Last thing I heard was that he wanted to come over this season before than financial crisis.

Then you said that they'd be more interested in someone like Beasley who has played in the NBA already and shown some serious potential. I said fair enough to that suggestion because Mahinmi and Splitter haven't really played in the NBA to show what they can do.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...eAssets-090130

ASSET No. 8: Rights to overseas players
OWNERS: Orlando (Fran Vazquez), Oklahoma City (Serge Ibaka), Denver (Axel Hervelle), San Antonio (Tiago Splitter)

Vazquez (at right) has a contract (with a $7 million buyout clause) with FC Barcelona that expires after the current season, and the 11th pick of the 2005 draft has said he'd like to come to the NBA. The Thunder are constantly being asked if they'd be open to trading the rights to the athletic Ibaka, currently playing for Ricoh Manresa of the Spanish League, as is the case with the Nuggets and Hervelle, who plays for Real Madrid.

Splitter's rights are less valuable, because many in the NBA feel he'll never leave Europe, given that he would have to sign what amounts to a four-year deal starting at $940,000, the maximum he could earn under the rookie wage scale as the 28th pick of the 2007 draft. And that would be a pay cut.

[TheManFromAcme]

The addition of Sheed to your line-up would be good. To think it "takes you over the top" against the lineup of Gasol, Bynum and Odom is insane.

Some idiot in here believes (in his stupidly honest opinion) that Sheed would make the Spurs the favorites coming out of the west. Are you kidding me?

Your seasons of just above .500 are drawing nearer and nearer. There is no denying it. The grim reaper is waiting.

[ss1986v2]

You were basically saying they're not interested in Mahinmi cause he hasn't played much and Splitter cause it's widely regarded that he will never come over. Where have you heard this about Splitter? Last thing I heard was that he wanted to come over this season before than financial crisis.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...e=NBAHeadlines

Splitter's rights are less valuable, because many in the NBA feel he'll never leave Europe, given that he would have to sign what amounts to a four-year deal starting at $940,000, the maximum he could earn under the rookie wage scale as the 28th pick of the 2007 draft. And that would be a pay cut.

i think he may be referring to this.

*sry, beat me to it by 1 minute...

[DPG21920]

You were basically saying they're not interested in Mahinmi cause he hasn't played much and Splitter cause it's widely regarded that he will never come over. Where have you heard this about Splitter? Last thing I heard was that he wanted to come over this season before than financial crisis.

Then you said that they'd be more interested in someone like Beasley who has played in the NBA already and shown some serious potential. I said fair enough to that suggestion because Mahinmi and Splitter haven't really played in the NBA to show what they can do.

Also where did I say they would be MORE interested in Beasley than Splitter or Ian? I used Beasley as an example of a young, talented big on a rookie scale contract that was a lottery pick.

Although, they clearly would be more interested in Beasley, but that is not the point.

[Ice009]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...eAssets-090130

ASSET No. 8: Rights to overseas players
OWNERS: Orlando (Fran Vazquez), Oklahoma City (Serge Ibaka), Denver (Axel Hervelle), San Antonio (Tiago Splitter)

Vazquez (at right) has a contract (with a $7 million buyout clause) with FC Barcelona that expires after the current season, and the 11th pick of the 2005 draft has said he'd like to come to the NBA. The Thunder are constantly being asked if they'd be open to trading the rights to the athletic Ibaka, currently playing for Ricoh Manresa of the Spanish League, as is the case with the Nuggets and Hervelle, who plays for Real Madrid.

Splitter's rights are less valuable, because many in the NBA feel he'll never leave Europe, given that he would have to sign what amounts to a four-year deal starting at $940,000, the maximum he could earn under the rookie wage scale as the 28th pick of the 2007 draft. And that would be a pay cut.

That link doesn't work. How long ago was this written?

[DPG21920]

That link doesn't work. How long ago was this written?

A few weeks ago. Try this one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...eAssets-090130

[TampaDude]

I love Sheed, but NFW he's ever gonna be a Spur...

[Pablo Escobar]

Reggie Miller on the deal that would put the Spurs over the top

Reggie Miller joined the show to analyze all the trade talk rumbling through the NBA. Here are some of his takes:

-- Miller says if the Spurs could obtain Rasheed Wallace, they'd be the favorites to win the West (even if the Lakers get Andrew Bynum back).

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/dan...642/index.html

i heard that interview and the funny thing is that dan didnt even ask reggie about the spurs trading for sheed
so maybe something is going on

[DPG21920]

I would not count out next year as a FA. It makes perfect sense and I do not think he will command more than the MLE anyways.

[DPG21920]

Hey, if I am wrong, I will be the happiest guy on the board.

[BlackSwordsMan]

sheed on the spurs would give me a boner

[BlackSwordsMan]

I hope sheed read that and gave him extra incentive on being a spur

[Ice009]

Hey, if I am wrong, I will be the happiest guy on the board.

btw I'd say I agree with you more than anything I've said . I'm just trying to see if it is possible to make a deal. Even if we could work out a way to do it there is probably a 5% chance of it going through.

[Manufan909]

Sheed!!!!!!!! Jk, he would be the perfect addition to this team. And lol at the cowering Laker fans that don't think he'd put the Spurs on top.

[xtremesteven33]

Don Harris from WOAI

Take it with a giant grain of salt, but this close to the trade deadline the rumors are everywhere. In his "Trade Talk" article on ESPN.com, Marc Stein says Rasheed Wallace wants out of Detroit and wants to be a Spur.

Stein writes...

The surprise stems from the rumbles I've heard about Detroit free-agent-to-be Rasheed Wallace having legit interest in joining the Spurs to team up with his 2005 NBA Finals nemesis Tim Duncan, with 'Sheed chief among the Pistons unsettled by the realization that big changes are undoubtedly coming in that locker room.

Looking at the Spurs roster, I don't see a real trade possibility either. The Spurs aren't trading Duncan, Ginobili or Parker for Rasheed Wallace, and the rest of their roster doesn't offer a player that would entice Joe Dumars to forgo Rasheed's cap space use this coming summer.

Click here to read his full column..

There has also been talk about the Spurs trading for Brad Miller or Vince Carter, but the Sheed talk is getting most of the headlines because it was heard nationally on the Dan Patrick Show.

http://www.woai.com/content/sports/s...kbaJDUGw.cspxv

[galvatron3000]

The addition of Sheed to your line-up would be good. To think it "takes you over the top" against the lineup of Gasol, Bynum and Odom is insane.

Some idiot in here believes (in his stupidly honest opinion) that Sheed would make the Spurs the favorites coming out of the west. Are you kidding me?

Your seasons of just above .500 are drawing nearer and nearer. There is no denying it. The grim reaper is waiting.

[SenorSpur]

Realistically, I really don't see the Spurs being able to land Sheed until the summer - when he's an UFA. The price tag for him is simply too high and the Spurs just don't have enough assets that would appeal to an astute GM like the Pistons Joe Dumars.

If the Spurs want to go big before the deadline, they'll likely have to find another lower-cost option somewhere. And there aint that many to be had.