Bargnani available????

[coyotes_geek]

That does not tell you what happened when Andrea specifically was on him. And he surely defends Gasol better than Bonner does. Actually, Andrea is pretty good as a one-on-one defender in the post.

That's a fair point. And I'll be the first to admit I don't get to (or particularly want to) watch Raptor game regularly. But from what I have seen I respectfully disagree about Bargnani's capabilities on post defense. That's not to say I don't think he's a good player. He is. I just don't think he's someone who can address what I percieve to be the Spurs weaknesses.

[DPG21920]

I'm not so sure. Yeah he's overpaid, but him being overpaid has no affect how how effective he was in helping Tim anchor the defense.

I would say that the Spurs perimeter defense is the biggest problem. That is where you see the slippage (and that coincides with Bowen getting less burn). As mentioned by others, Bargnani is a much better one-on-one low block defender than you give him credit for.

His perimeter defense is suspect, but if he is not guarding SF's and guarding the bigs of the other teams, he is not as bad. He could learn to be a better P&R defender on the Spurs. He has the footwork and speed.

[EricB]

I'm not so sure. Yeah he's overpaid, but him being overpaid has no affect how how effective he was in helping Tim anchor the defense.

Him being overpaid affected OTHER personnel moves. If you could do football like reconstructing of contracts, then yeah Rasho would've stayed.

[EricB]

This is big bowl of grammar and punctuation fail.

Yeah cause thats what we shoot for here.

[EricB]

Where is your proof that he is afraid to attack? Did I call him a slasher? I simply posted evidence to refute your claims that he shudders at the thought of going to the rack.

All I did is expose what everyone here already knows about you: you talk about guys whom you clearly do not watch.

Where is my proof?

When hes guarded tight at the perimiter and when he pump fakes, he doesn't drive, he stays out on the perimiter!


OOOO, you EXPOSED me, by using 3 you tube videos.

Rasho nesterovic was afraid to dunk and was soft. Thats a fact. But you can find 3 youtube videos of Rasho dunking and say "HES NOT SOFT HE DUNKED RIGHT HERE" it doesn't make your arguement anymore true.

[coyotes_geek]

I would say that the Spurs perimeter defense is the biggest problem. That is where you see the slippage (and that coincides with Bowen getting less burn). As mentioned by others, Bargnani is a much better one-on-one low block defender than you give him credit for.

His perimeter defense is suspect, but if he is not guarding SF's and guarding the bigs of the other teams, he is not as bad. He could learn to be a better P&R defender on the Spurs. He has the footwork and speed.

Is the perimeter defense really worse than it has been, or are we just noticing it more because the Spurs don't have that second big man next to Tim to help erase those mistakes made out on the perimeter? Be it guards/sf's getting to the rim or pf/c's scoring in the low post this team is giving up way too many points in the paint. IMO, only a pf/c is going to correct that.

[DPG21920]

Is the perimeter defense really worse than it has been, or are we just noticing it more because the Spurs don't have that second big man next to Tim to help erase those mistakes made out on the perimeter? Be it guards/sf's getting to the rim or pf/c's scoring in the low post this team is giving up way too many points in the paint. IMO, only a pf/c is going to correct that.

I think it is quite obvious that when you take out Bowen, the defense is worse. That is not a lack of bigs. I am not saying the big you are describing would not help, I just think it is overstated some.

[DPG21920]

Where is my proof?

When hes guarded tight at the perimiter and when he pump fakes, he doesn't drive, he stays out on the perimiter!


OOOO, you EXPOSED me, by using 3 you tube videos.

Rasho nesterovic was afraid to dunk and was soft. Thats a fact. But you can find 3 youtube videos of Rasho dunking and say "HES NOT SOFT HE DUNKED RIGHT HERE" it doesn't make your arguement anymore true.

Everyone can go to the rack more. People on here get mad a Ginobili for pump faking then taking 3's, does that mean Ginobili is afraid to go to the rim?

He is young and has shown on numerous occasions that he will take it strong to the rim. Can he do it more? Yes. He is still learning and has shown flashes of being very, very good all around. Don't just throw out random crap when you clearly do not watch him consistently enough to do so.

The videos just show you the ability. They help to show that you are wrong. So just because it is a youtube video means you should dismiss it? Lets go with your method and just throw random out there and post no form of evidence what so ever then dismiss what others bring. You never lose!

[coyotes_geek]

I think it is quite obvious that when you take out Bowen, the defense is worse. That is not a lack of bigs. I am not saying the big you are describing would not help, I just think it is overstated some.

I certainly hope that you're right and that I'm wrong about this.

[wisnub]

Bargnani is originally viewed as young nowitzki. He is a big man who can shoot jumper and consistent 3 as well. Problem is that he is not developing the way people expect him to be. I saw him playing couple of times. Actually he's preety good. But somehow he just stop developing and sucks bad at times. But if Pop get his hand on him,he should be okay. I mean Bonner is turning into Super Bonner. I saw him playing in Italian League and his early days looking solid. After a while, he sucks and dissapeared. Raptors is not a good team, he should be in Spurs. I think as long as it didnt involved 5 starters plus Manu, we should give it a try...this guy can shoot 3 and Chip can polish his shooting skills, he is young so he got time on his side provided he got proper Spurs counselling.