Cotton Camby's a . Haven't you been ting on Bowen for years because he's not an offensive threat and now you want someone who is even more of a one-way player?
Camby can also stretch the floor with his jumpshot. Although awkward, it is effective. He isn't much of a back to the basket guy but he can run, and also lead a break. He's a talented player who would be hard to come by. His rebounding speaks for itself. He's a good defender as well. You have to appreciate his all around game.
haven't you noticed his avatar? his own mouth is filled with something that none of us wants to mention. he had to steal words from others, please forgive him.
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Horry at $3 mil, Oberto, Bowen and a sweetener like Splitter's rights work under the cap for Camby.
And though Camby has faults, he's better than Oberto or Thomas and works with the 2010 plan.
But let's be more realistic.
If the Spurs make a move, it will be for an stiff like Jeff Foster or Nick Collison that will blow the 2010 plan to pieces.
They signed Rasho. They wanted Joel Pryzbilla to replace him. They're not going to trade for Camby, Rasheed or Vince Carter. Best case scenario is that they'll just waste draft picks and and Splitter for older, more broken down stiffs who are about to expire, like Joe Smith or Donyell Marshall.
I'd like Camby - he has his faults, but he would be a good fit for the Spurs. I just have to think that another team could beat the pu-pu platter that the Spurs could offer. An injured Mahinmi? An unknown Splitter?
I don't see the Spurs offering Mason or Hill, which would probably be a prerequisite for the Clippers. Of course the Clippers got Camby for a 2nd round pick, so I guess anything is possible. The spurs could offer a bunch of crap and 2 2nd round picks and the Clips still come out ahead.
Ah, what's more refreshing than people arguing on a basketball forum and telling one another that they need to DIE?! Good stuff!
I'll always remember an interview I heard with Phil Jackson while he was retired. He was asked about the decision to trade for bad-boy Dennis Rodman and he said that he and his staff had made a list of guys they thought could help with interior defense and rebounding (sound familiar?). According to Phil, Rodman was 8th or 9th on that list, but it turned out that the other 7 or 8 guys just weren't available for what the Bulls had to offer. The real trick for the Spurs will be getting the most that they can while giving up the least.
Camby's D in the paint is overrated in my opinion, but his help D is very good and he's the best in the league at blocking shots without fouling. His rebounding is obviously good, and he's a pretty good assist/steals guy too. The idea that he "wouldn't help" is kooky. But, for the record, I don't want anyone with that opinion to die.
With that type of at ude, the terrorists win.
It's a fight to the death, you hippie.
Chill the out people. If RC can get either Camby or Sheed for a bunch of role players he will pull the trigger and we would have an excellent shot at winning the le. The only bummer is that neither are very likely.
Actually, and I might add unbeleavably, Sheed is more likely than unlikely.
Quality first post. Welcome aboard.
Another Camby thread? Really? Are you too ing lazy to go and thread dive for one of the other 5-10 that exist, or too arrogant to think we might have already discussed this while you were on one of your three year sabbaticals?
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He is A liability at times in some defensive sets but he more than makes up for it in rebounds, Has A decent shot and will be defending softees like the gasols and aldridge's of the leaugue.(JUST IMAGINE OUR PLAYERS WITH 7 MORE CHANCES A GAME TO SCORE. BESIDES IM WITH IT BECAUSE HES FROM CONNECTICUT. MY STATE. ID WELCOME HIM IN A HEARTBEAT.AND I KNOW BE EVEN BETTER UNDER POP. (TAKE A LOOK AT HIS FORMER COACHES)
This is a trade that can actually work for the Spurs and stay under the Luxury Tax threshold. Bowen and Oberto plus future pick of some sort plus $3 million allowed (to assist in buying out Bowen's contract) will add roughly a pro rated $1,300,000 to the cap number this year. Bowen coming back for vet minimum would add about $500,000 more. The Spurs are currently about $3,000,000 under the luxury tax. Camby's salary drops next year some and it would actually leave enough room to squeeze in a player at the full MLE and stay under the luxury tax again.
If it takes $4,000,000 to buy out Bowen which is basically the entire amount he has left guaranteed under his contract, this would save the Clippers about $7,000,000 in salary and pick up some kind of draft pick. I'd send Splitter's rights if they'd take that. Plus they still have a serviceable big back up in Oberto.
He doesn't exactly hurt either......
WTF are you talking about?
Does anyone know how pro-rated contracts affects trades like this especially considering the lux tax???????????????????????
In other words, do the Spurs have to match all of Sheeds contract to trade for him this year?
How about looking at his body of work since he's come to Denver? You can't possibly believe that Camby is actually going to make the Spurs worse on D?
I'll give you the argument that he might be a bit overrated, but a liability? I don't see it.
Its good if we got Camby. Its good to have Rasheed. Unfortunately I will bet money and myself that the trade is NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AT ALL !!!
It is funny to watch so many people talk about things that not going to happen. Anybody could disagree with me but given Spurs history and FO: THERE IS NO TRADE FOR IMPACT PLAYER...PERIOD !!!!! this will be a uncontestable fact. But they might got a big man scrub who Spurs will dump after one season,kindda like Elson type player. That might happen. BUT BIG TRADE IS NOT HAPPENING AT ALL! GUARANTEED!!!
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just look how much worse Denver is without Camby, and how much better the clips are with him
camby's a joke
So if the Spurs are ahead of the Lakers by one point in Game 7 of the WC Finals with 1 second left in the game and Kobe drives to the basket for a layup or dunk only to get his shot cleanly 'blocked' by Marcus Camby (if he were a Spur) then a block doesn't prove ? Or the same scenerio in the NBA Finals between the Spurs and Celtics and Tim or Marcus 'blocks' the final shot attempt by KG, which had it not been blocked and the shot made, the Celtics would be repeat Champions, then the 'block' doesn't mean ? If the Nets coaching staff believes that then no wonder the Nets have never won an NBA Championship. When was the last time any NBA team won the championship by being a purely offensive team and not a defensive minded team?
Camby would be a great fit as a role player to block shots (or intimidate shooters) and rebound. But is he available and at what cost?
Camby a joke? He wouldn't be a joke playing on the spurs next to Duncan, Camby would bring that defensive presence the spurs desperately need.just look how much worse Denver is without Camby, and how much better the clips are with him
camby's a joke
I can't believe that some of you would actually be against getting Camby, or even moreso knocking him. The guy was putting up All-Star numbers for the early part of the season (believe before getting injured), and was being talked about how unfortunately he's playing for the Clips and won't get any recognition. He's really been the only positive for that team with all the injury's and Baron being a non factor. Although I don't believe we have enough to get either Wallace or Camby, both of them would fit a need for the Spurs. Camby is of course a great shot blocker and rebounder, something Tim hasn't played with since Dave. But I believe would be a great help defender as others have stated here. The Spurs D has always been about forcing the player into the bigs. The reason our D has slipped this year is because we are playing Bonner more mins as our 2nd Big. Unlike with Oberto, Elson, and other Bigs of past Bonner isn't a great help defender (even though he tries his ass off). Wallace on the other hand is an amazing on ball, post defender and always has been, but has also been on a disciplined defensive team in Detroit for years. He will without a doubt bring a huge defensive presence to this team. I'd be thrilled to have either, but for anyone to bash either of these guys and saying they wouldn't be a help to this team is ridiculous.
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