OLD: Manu Ginobili might be out for the season

[TheTruth]

Spurs leak Ginobili is done for the year.

Spurs get Carter on the cheap thanks to this.

Ginobili is magically ok for the mavericks game next tuesday.

I don't see how leaking Ginobili is out for the year gets us Carter on the cheap. Wouldn't teams be more inclined to hold out for more in return knowing we are more desperate now that we've lost one of our best players?

[Kori Ellis]

I don't see how leaking Ginobili is out for the year gets us Carter on the cheap. Wouldn't teams be more inclined to hold out for more in return knowing we are more desperate now that we've lost one of our best players?

Exactly.

[TheTruth]

If the Spurs leak Ginobili is done for the year, then NJ would want MORE not less for VC because they'd think the Spurs would be desperate.

ooops, beat me to it.

[MarHill]

Timvp,

I have a question. Can a team who is trading a player like VC take some of his salary to help get a deal done with another team?

I know that might not make sense for NJ...since they are dumping salary.

But I was wondering if they could do that?

Kori or someone else can answer this question?

[Ice009]

That's been the team's official stance since this morning . . .

Another miss direction by the Spurs?

This is crazy. Spurs have got everyone all over the place now.

I hope Manu is OK.

[vy65]

What doesn't make sense is that the VC rumors began circulating on/around Feb. 6 -- which was prior to both the Toronto and Boston games. I dunno what to make of that other than A) The FO had prior interest in VC without regard to any (potential) injury or B) Manu's "injury" had existed for some time, but the team let him play on it regardless and it has just blown up now.

Neither scenario really makes much sense though

[timvp]

Timvp,

I have a question. Can a team who is trading a player like VC take some of his salary to help get a deal done with another team?

I know that might not make sense for NJ...since they are dumping salary.

But I was wondering if they could do that?

No. The most a team can do is include cash as part of the deal -- up to $3 million. But the entire salary will count against the books no matter what.

[crc21209]

McDonald, although an idiot at times, has been writing some decent articles lately and does work for the Express news so if he says someone within the organization says its not a threat to end Manu's season, we gotta believe him. He cant be lying his ass off to the avg. fan who reads sa.com or the paper, he would get his ass fired. lol.

[tp2021]

This is more convoluted than LOST.

[MarHill]

No. The most a team can do is include cash as part of the deal -- up to $3 million. But the entire salary will count against the books no matter what.

Okay, thanks!

I thought so...just making sure!

[Kori Ellis]

What doesn't make sense is that the VC rumors began circulating on/around Feb. 6 -- which was prior to both the Toronto and Boston games. I dunno what to make of that other than A) The FO had prior interest in VC without regard to any (potential) injury or B) Manu's "injury" had existed for some time, but the team let him play on it regardless and it has just blown up now.

Neither scenario really makes much sense though

For whatever it's worth, some people have said he's been injured since the Golden State game.. what date was that?

[Muser]

For whatever it's worth, some people have said he's been injured since the Golden State game.. what date was that?

2nd Feb

[Manufan909]

Hopefully this is true. Perhaps by leaking Manu is possibly out for the season, another team wouldn't be as worried about giving the Spurs the final piece to a juggernaut.





Unlikely but CIA Pop has done craftier.

Examples?

[Kori Ellis]

McDonald, although an idiot at times, has been writing some decent articles lately and does work for the Express news so if he says someone within the organization says its not a threat to end Manu's season, we gotta believe him. He cant be lying his ass off to the avg. fan who reads sa.com or the paper, he would get his ass fired. lol.

I don't think he's lying. He's probably just reporting what he's been told. We can just hope that's the truth.

[crc21209]

But that GS game nothing was said about an ankle, just about his Hip.

[EricB]

The timeline is starting to make sense then.

[Ditty]

please ginobili come back

and spurs please trade for a big man

please Jesus help this team out

[MarHill]

For whatever it's worth, some people have said he's been injured since the Golden State game.. what date was that?

Feb 2nd

[porscha]

Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:54 am Post subject:

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Grande Jalbert! Felicitaciones! Te ganaste un premio que te llegara en un futuro no muy lejano (notese la vaguedad y amplitud de la frase usada en cuanto a tiempo, pero no en cuanto a certeza).

Saludos a todos y buenisimo el video de NQN'01. Que momento! Que manera de correr y saltar para todos lados!

manu was still posting on 2/14 at his site.
I'm not sure what he was saying but from google, he seems fine!

please manu be healthy. praying.

[crc21209]

I don't think he's lying. He's probably just reporting what he's been told. We can just hope that's the truth.

Amen Kori, Amen.

[word]

Ginobilli reported out for the season on some message board ?

No thanks.

[vy65]

For whatever it's worth, some people have said he's been injured since the Golden State game.. what date was that?

Mon. Feb. 2. In that game he got whacked in the shoulder and took a hard hit to his hip. I don't remember seeing any funny business with his ankle though.

[ElNono]

If the Spurs leak Ginobili is done for the year, then NJ would want MORE not less for VC because they'd think the Spurs would be desperate.

They might want more players/monetary compensation, something that the Spurs might be willing to do as long as they don't have to part ways with Manu. This is the theory I was explaining earlier. Suppose the trade conversations deadlocked because the Nets wanted Manu and no other Spurs players. Now you take Manu out of the picture and they have to look at whatever else the Spurs are offering. Doesn't mean they'll go for it, but you get conversations started again at a different angle.

[timvp]

Seems unusual to have a meeting like that and it might mean that the MRI didn't reveal anything specifically. However, the soreness of the ankle might have led them to try other methods for determining what is going on.

If it is persistently sore and they don't know exactly why, then this might explain the meeting.


Is it unusual to have a meeting like this to determine injuries ?

That's the type of meeting in which there's a major decision to be made. If it's something simple, it'd be between the player and Pop.

If there is actually a meeting, that has me hopeful. That probably means that there are multiple options on the table.

This is starting to sound like one of those "have surgery or try to play through it" types of situations.

[Kori Ellis]

But that GS game nothing was said about an ankle, just about his Hip.

Nope. After the GS game it was said he was really banged up... he said in the postgame interview "all over." I heard that at that point it was ankle/hip/shoulder/tailbone.