Update... RJ talks Stalled, Vince deal dead...

[afireinside20]

OMG, please Spurs get Vince Carter!!!

[MacGyver]

OMG, please Spurs get Vince Carter!!!!

[mudyez]

I'm pretty sure, we will do a minu trade for joe smith and thats it...kind of the same deal we had forkurt last year...presti will do us another favour

BUT I will be really pissed, if we dont win another championship the next 2 years, with the group we have now...and I'm the first one to say: it would have been worth to make a real run at carter!

[mudyez]

about 8 hours to go?

[mystargtr34]

I read the earlier part of the thread, skipped the rest. In regards to the discussion about Mason/Hill for Carter. I look at it two ways, if Manu is out for the season, or if there is ANY concern that he could be out for the season, then you trade Mason and Hill for him, assuming thats the deal breaker.

Assk yourself this question, would you rather have Manu, or would you rather have Hill + Mason. Who's harder to replace? Carter is every bit the player Manu is, and probably then some. A 15 MPG backup PG, and a 6'5" 3 Point shooter are much easier to replace than 20-5-5 from the wing position.

Its a no brainer.

[mystargtr34]

You find your new back up PG in next years draft, and your 3 point specialist during the next off season.

Hill and Mase have been great, but i trade them in a heartbeat for a chance to win now. Standing pat means another season wasted, and Duncan will be 34 during next seasons playoffs.

[Mr. Body]

Chad Ford:
The Nets and Blazers were negotiating late into the night over Vince Carter. One of the hang-ups now is Portland's insistence that the Nets include the 2011 first-round pick the Nets acquired from the Golden State Warriors in any deal for Carter. It's pretty tough at the moment to get a handle on what the Blazers are doing. They talked to Bucks, Bobcats and the Nets on Wednesday. And one source insists there's still a possibility that the Blazers don't do anything.

Cheeky! The Blazers are insisting on NJ's OWN first rounder. That's amazing.

[mystargtr34]

That expiring contract of Lafrentz will probably be the difference. Now that Pritchard knows the Spurs are interested, he will probly be more willing to put more in the deal.

Lafrentz + Outlaw + Fillers is alot more attractive than anything the Spurs can offer.

[Harry Callahan]

Cheeky! The Blazers are insisting on NJ's OWN first rounder. That's amazing.

The arrogance of Portland's GM is coming through again. Pritchard wants to kick people in the nuts and brag about it later. An a-hole.

[benefactor]

Pritchard is a chump stain. Not only does he want to acquire Carter for basically nothing but he wants the Nets to send a first round pick too? He's gonna look even dumber than he did with Dairusgate if the deal fails because of this.

[MarHill]

I guess I should take that approach when deciding to spend money going to games or not. If the FO isn't willing to spend money to give our team the best chance to win...why should I spend my money on seeing a team spin their wheels?

Then I will define you as a Spoiled Spurs fan.

This team has put a very compe ive product on the court for the past 10 years and have cashed in for 4 championships since then and have made at least the 2nd round of the playoffs since 2000. And this team is still very compe ive...that's all I can ask for as a fan. To give yourself a chance to win it all each year that you can.

This isn't fantasy basketball and it isn't easy to make deals like a lot of people want on this thread.

I would like to have VC and he is talented but I can understand perfectly why Spurs won't do it because it will hurt them financially.

If you can't appreciate that...then too bad!

[MarHill]

Exactly. People get way too carried away sometimes. I imagine the FO gets a lot of laughs from some of the theories they hear.

Amen!!!

[Man of Steel]

Don't know why I have this feeling--

But I think the Carter deal may still come about.

Just a hunch.

Guess we won't know until after lunch.

[MarHill]

The Spurs aren't going to make any big moves because they just don't do that.

They will bank on Manu's ankle recovering in time for the playoffs and let the chips fall where they may. I'm baffled that Spur fans actually think their FO would trade Ginobili.

Amazing....even a fan for our rival gets it!!

Thank you, DrHouse!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

This team has put a very compe ive product on the court for the past 10 years and have cashed in for 4 championships since then and have made at least the 2nd round of the playoffs since 2000. And this team is still very compe ive...that's all I can ask for as a fan. To give yourself a chance to win it all each year that you can.

i say there were times during those 10 years, i felt we shouldve kept some of the players instead of letting them go and signing a FA the following year, to find out the moron doesnt fit on our team and letting him go and look for another player again.....

eg. we win during odd years, and when its time to resign...they either bolt and we are forced to look for a FA and fail in a even year.....

[Holt's Cat]

I guess Duncan's going to play forever.

[MarHill]

i say there were times during those 10 years, i felt we shouldve kept some of the players instead of letting them go and signing a FA the following year, to find out the moron doesnt fit on our team and letting him go and look for another player again.....

eg. we win during odd years, and when its time to resign...they either bolt and we are forced to look for a FA and fail in a even year.....

Only the Celtics, Lakers, and Bulls have more championships than the Spurs in NBA HISTORY!!!!!

Even the Celtics and Lakers have had down years and this team is still compe ive for a championship.

You're not going to win it all every year. That's unrealistic! But to keep yourself in the hunt....is all I can ask for as a fan!

Hmm......

[MarHill]

I guess Duncan's going to play forever.

Of course not!

But getting four championships out of him in ten years...the Spurs FO' will take that everytime.

Ask Charles Barkley or Karl Malone or Pat Ewing or Reggie Miller or Dirk or Steve Nash if they would take Tim Duncan's place!!

[Holt's Cat]

Of course not!

But getting four championships out of him in ten years...the Spurs FO' will take that everytime.

Ask Charles Barkley or Karl Malone or Pat Ewing or Reggie Miller or Dirk or Steve Nash if they would take Tim Duncan's place!!

Yay for settling.

[MarHill]

Yay for settling.

Yay...for no perspective!!

[Holt's Cat]

Oh grasshopper, I have plenty of perspective. The Spurs have two once-in-a-generation bigmen fall into their laps and they have only 4 les to show for it over 19 years?

[Holt's Cat]

After the next couple of seasons the Spurs aren't going to sniff another Larry O'Brien for a long, long time. So win now and SS&E's financials.

[MarHill]

[QUOTE=Holt's Cat;3124148]Oh grasshopper, I have plenty of perspective. The Spurs have two once-in-a-generation bigmen fall into their laps and they have only 4 les to show for it over 19 years?[/QUOTE

Only 4 les...shows you have no perspective!!

Only the Celtics, Lakers, and Bulls have more championships than the Spurs.

And considering.....a lot of people think NBA is in the tank for the Lakers and Celtics...that a team from South Texas even have a championship let alone 4 is remarkable indeed!!!

[MarHill]

After the next couple of seasons the Spurs aren't going to sniff another Larry O'Brien for a long, long time. So win now and SS&E's financials.

Yep...easy to post to spend other people's money!!!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Only 4 les...shows you have no perspective!!

Only the Celtics, Lakers, and Bulls have more championships than the Spurs.

And considering.....a lot of people think NBA is in the tank for the Lakers and Celtics...that a team from South Texas even have a championship let alone 4 is remarkable indeed!!!

Dude stop being rational, objective and logical, you're messing with his head.