William Rodriguez Vindicated by Newly Released 9/11 Commission Notes

[mouse]

They were not turned off.

Nice lying.

WTC 7 CIA Field Office Records Exempt From Disclosure
Submitted by Aidan Monaghan on Fri, 11/21/2008 - 6:26am.

The following is a Freedom of Information Act response from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) regarding a request for records pertaining to a description of the functions of the CIA field office once located on the 25th floor of World Trade Center Building 7.



The CIA will neither confirm or deny the existence of such records per Executive Order 12958.






FEMA WTC 7 report reference to WTC 7 CIA field office:




http://www.fema.gov/pdf/library/fema403_ch5.pdf


Dear Mr. Monaghan:



This is a final response to your 22 September 2008 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, received 1 October 2008 in the office ofthe Information and Privacy Coordinator, for "records that describe the functions ofthe CIA field office once located in World Trade Center Building 7 in New York City, New York or any other CIA records regarding this field office."



In accordance with section 3.6(a) of Executive Order 12958, as amended, the CIA can neither confirm nor deny the existence or nonexistence ofrecords responsive to your request. The fact of the existence or nonexistence ofrequested records is currently and properly classified and is intelligence sources and methods information that is protected from disclosure by section 6 of the CIA Act of 1949, as amended. Therefore, the Agency has denied your request pursuant to FOIA exemptions (b)(1) and (b)(3). I have enclosed an explanation of these exemptions for your reference and retention.



CIA Information and Privaey Coordinator Delores M. Nelson made this decision, which you may appeal to the Agency Release Panel, in my care, within 45 days from the date of this letter. Please include the basis of your appeal.



Sincerely,



Delores M. Nelson



Information and Privacy Coordinator



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[ChumpDumper]

Gee CIA records aren't available through the FOIA?

Wow!

[Galileo]

They were not turned off.

Nice lying.

Yes they were.

You are a liar.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes they were.

You are a liar.

They were not turned off.

You are a liar.

[Galileo]

They were not turned off.

You are a liar.

Your pants are on fire and you have a long nose growth.

[mouse]

They were not turned off.

Nice lying.

Open mouth insert foot.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/n...-findings/693/

[mouse]

They were not turned off.

You are a liar.

Fetzer said. “Remarkably, the fire alarm system in WTC-7 was turned off at 6:47 AM/ET and placed on ‘TEST’ status for a period of eight hours

[Galileo]

Open mouth insert foot.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/n...-findings/693/

Good post.

I actually wrote the first draft of that press release.

[ChumpDumper]

Your pants are on fire and you have a long nose growth.

Open mouth insert foot.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/911-truth/n...-findings/693/

Test status means it still sent the alarm signal when there was a fire.

It's not like they could fight the fire anyway if the alarm told them where the fire was in the building -- and it was pretty clear where the fire was anyway, as the many eyewitness accounts attest.

[ChumpDumper]

Fetzer said. “Remarkably, the fire alarm system in WTC-7 was turned off at 6:47 AM/ET and placed on ‘TEST’ status for a period of eight hours

Remarkably, the setting to test status was routine and the alarm still worked when the fire started.

[Galileo]

Test status means it still sent the alarm signal when there was a fire.

It's not like they could fight the fire anyway if the alarm told them where the fire was in the building -- and it was pretty clear where the fire was anyway, as the many eyewitness accounts attest.

Test status means the signals are stored in memory, and no signals went to the fire department.

Of course, since WTC 7 was blown up, these alarm records have been lost, including the records of the explosions that almost killed Barry Jennings and Michael hess.

You are a liar.

[ChumpDumper]

Test status means the signals are stored in memory, and no signals went to the fire department.

Wrong. The signal still goes to the fire department, there are just no specifics about the location of the fire in the building.

Of course, since WTC 7 was blown up, these alarm records have been lost, including the records of the explosions that almost killed Barry Jennings and Michael hess.

Who makes explosion alarms? You said no buildings made of steel and concrete can burn anyway.

You are a liar.

Nope. It's all true.

[mouse]

I have to go to HEB I am all out of tin foil. I hope to see some of you thick headed Bush lovers when I get back.

[ChumpDumper]

I have to go to HEB I am all out of tin foil. I hope to see some of you thick headed Bush lovers when I get back.

Hope you post what you really think happened on 9/11 when you get back

[Galileo]

Wrong. The signal still goes to the fire department, there are just no specifics about the location of the fire in the building.

Who makes explosion alarms? You said no buildings made of steel and concrete can burn anyway.

Nope. It's all true.

Wrong. If the alarm messages went to the fire department, they'd have a record of all the explosions and fires in WTC 7.

Remember that massive fire in WTC 7 you used to talk about?

You have a short memory. The messages have been lost, becasue the alarms were off. Of course, with the absence of these records, NIST can easier peddle their stupid thermal expansion theory, as the records of which columns expanded and when are lost.

They truned off the alarms so there would be no record of the explosions on paper.

btw - who turned off the alarms? In a high security building, that's not easy to do, unless it's an inside job.

[ChumpDumper]

Wrong. If the alarm messages went to the fire department, they'd have a record of all the explosions and fires in WTC 7.

they do have a record of the fire in WTC7.

Remember that massive fire in WTC 7 you used to talk about?

Yes, there is a record of that.

You have a short memory. The messages have been lost, becasue the alarms were off.

It's pretty clear when the fire started.

Of course, with the absence of these records, NIST can easier peddle their stupid thermal expansion theory, as the records of which columns expanded and when are lost.

There are no column expansion alarms. You have a really poor concept about what alarms do.

They truned off the alarms so there would be no record of the explosions on paper.

Again, there are no explosion alarms. There was fire before there were explosions in WTC7, and that fire was reported by the alarm system.

btw - who turned off the alarms? In a high security building, that's not easy to do, unless it's an inside job.

It was done routinely every few weeks. Had you bothered to read the NIST report, you would know this.

[Galileo]

they do have a record of the fire in WTC7.

Yes, there is a record of that.

It's pretty clear when the fire started.There are no column expansion alarms. You have a really poor concept about what alarms do.

Again, there are no explosion alarms. There was fire before there were explosions in WTC7, and that fire was reported by the alarm system.

It was done routinely every few weeks. Had you bothered to read the NIST report, you would know this.

show me the records. They should have dozens of alarms triggered as the fire moved around slowly in the building.

You ought to pass those records on to NIST as well.

[ChumpDumper]

show me the records. They should have dozens of alarms triggered as the fire moved around slowly in the building.

You ought to pass those records on to NIST as well.

The NIST is where you will find the records.

Thanks for admitting you never read the report and for continuing to demonstrate your complete ignorance of alarm systems of any sort.

[Galileo]

they do have a record of the fire in WTC7.

Yes, there is a record of that.

It's pretty clear when the fire started.There are no column expansion alarms. You have a really poor concept about what alarms do.

Again, there are no explosion alarms. There was fire before there were explosions in WTC7, and that fire was reported by the alarm system.

It was done routinely every few weeks. Had you bothered to read the NIST report, you would know this.

show me in the records where this explosion shows up:

WTC 7 Explosion on Audio (heard by firemen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YvrKfWkxdw

[ChumpDumper]

show me in the records where this explosion shows up:

WTC 7 Explosion on Audio (heard by firemen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YvrKfWkxdw

There are no explosion alarms made for buildings that you claim could never catch fire.

[Galileo]

There are no explosion alarms made for buildings that you claim could never catch fire.

so you are telling us that the alarm system wouldn't alert the fire department if a large explosion went off?

I'm saying the alarms were not ON, they were on TEST status, which effectively means the alarms were OFF.

Convenient, if you wanted to make last minute planning for a demolition later that day.

Oh, by the way, did you ever figure out who turned the alarm off and under whose authority.

You'd think in an arson case, ya might want ot know that.

[ChumpDumper]

so you are telling us that the alarm system wouldn't alert the fire department if a large explosion went off?

I am telling you that the alarm had already gone off and firefighters were alreay on the scene and unable to fight the fires.

I'm saying the alarms were not ON, they were on TEST status, which effectively means the alarms were OFF.

You can say that, but it isn't true.

Convenient, if you wanted to make last minute planning for a demolition later that day.

There was no reason to bring down WTC7 in any manner.

Oh, by the way, did you ever figure out who turned the alarm off and under whose authority.

It's all in the report you didn't read.

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/t..._1120_wtc7.htm

You'd think in an arson case, ya might want ot know that.

It wasn't arson.

[Galileo]

they do have a record of the fire in WTC7.

Yes, there is a record of that.

It's pretty clear when the fire started.There are no column expansion alarms. You have a really poor concept about what alarms do.

Again, there are no explosion alarms. There was fire before there were explosions in WTC7, and that fire was reported by the alarm system.

It was done routinely every few weeks. Had you bothered to read the NIST report, you would know this.

NIST did not use any alarm data to determine the time and place of the fires.

Remember the diesel tank theory from the 5th floor? If the alarm data were there, they'd know if a fire was really roaring down there on the 5th floor.

Now we have the thermal expansion theory, where core column # 79 snapped off from girder # 44.

You have not read through the reports, you just regurgitate bull . NIST doesn't have any alarm data to determine where and when the fires were. They determined the fire locations by eyewitness testimony and visual evidence.

[Galileo]

Remarkably, the setting to test status was routine and the alarm still worked when the fire started.

Yes, but after WTC 7 went down, all the alarm data was lost.

[ChumpDumper]

NIST did not use any alarm data to determine the time and place of the fires.

Why did you answer a question you didn't ask?

Remember the diesel tank theory from the 5th floor? If the alarm data were there, they'd know if a fire was really roaring down there on the 5th floor.

They could see where the fire was by looking at the building.

Now we have the thermal expansion theory, where core column # 79 snapped off from girder # 44.

There were no thermal expansion alarms.

You have not read through the reports, you just regurgitate bull . NIST doesn't have any alarm data to determine where and when the fires were. They determined the fire locations by eyewitness testimony and visual evidence.

That's exactly what I have been saying. Thanks for finally catching up to me and good to know you fully support the eyewitness testimony and visual evidence.