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    Since the early 1990s (excluding the 04 pistons and 08 celtics) your team hasnt won a championship unless you have had MJ, Hakeem, Shaq or Duncan... thats how great a player duncan is. Winning a championship is unbelievably hard and every generation gets a handful of guys capable of delivering it... Duncan is one of them.


    That being said, in a few years Duncan will be retired and so will Pop. This is going to be Tony's team. Him having a larger role and becoming more of a floor leader is important for our future, and with the way parker has played of late the future is bright in San Antonio imo.


    *edit no disrespect to Wade or Kobe, using Shaq just makes it a shorter list

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    It's much harder for a guard to carry a team because they are often forced into taking much more difficult shots and usually have to work harder to get them. Especially during the playoffs, where the game slows down and defenses are specifically geared to take away the oppositions strengths.

    All that said, I have two concerns. First, I am worried that by carrying the load now, perhaps Tony will be gassed by the time the playoffs roll around. Second, good coaches, like Phil Jackson, have demonstrated they know how to shut Tony down over the course of a 7-game series.

    Unless Manu and Tim are healthy enough that they can share their end of the load, none of it will matter.
    tp better this year then last
    and tp did attack last game late against lakers

    also tp said he figured how rockets were guarding him and told duncan what to do and it worked

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    SO this team is no going to be NBA champion anymore.


    When TD can't be the leader of the team then our chance to reach the finals and win the NBA will be 0.That's the difference between TD and TP.
    really that is what people said with david
    spurs won rings then

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    This thread is so jacked up....talk about hijacking...

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    No offense to that poster, but what he said was frikin' re ed.


    Name one player who you can say has been the MVP for the Spurs this year???



    I rest my case.

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    well, for only one of few times there is a thread about how tony is carrying us and praising him, there is a useless "whose team is this ?" debate to waste it.

    Tim has always be and still is the franchise player of this team. He was when TP had his well deserved Finals MVP in 2007 and he still is this RS where TP could easily be our best player. It's Tim's team, point.

    Great job from Tony anyway.

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    Name one player who you can say has been the MVP for the Spurs this year???



    I rest my case.
    Uh, Duncan, considering he is actually in the race for MVP

    http://www.nba.com/2008/news/feature...mvp/index.html

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    well, for only one of few times there is a thread about how tony is carrying us and praising him, there is a useless "whose team is this ?" debate to waste it.

    Tim has always be and still is the franchise player of this team. He was when TP had his well deserved Finals MVP in 2007 and he still is this RS where TP could easily be our best player. It's Tim's team, point.

    Great job from Tony anyway.


    I had said earlier (which nobody would point to) that one cant do without the other.

    TD makes TP great, and vice versa. But this year its plain to see that Parker is hitting his prime and Duncan is exiting his prime.

    Its not a knock on Duncan, (hes my favorite player) but Parker has been the Spurs MVP this year and may be for the next couple of years.

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    Uh, Duncan, considering he is actually in the race for MVP

    http://www.nba.com/2008/news/feature...mvp/index.html

    haha December 6

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    Show me the updated one with Tony ahead of Tim

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    Show me the updated one with Tony ahead of Tim


    ur a dumbass. Obviously you wont answer the question of whos had the better overall season.

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    Even though many people will deny it including Tony himself...

    This team is no longer Duncans team anymore....its Parkers.


    They all say the same thing every time; Duncan is the rock, Parker is the engine, Manu is the heart of the team. Everyone contributes and without one or two they aren't the Spurs.
    SO this team is no going to be NBA champion anymore.


    When TD can't be the leader of the team then our chance to reach the finals and win the NBA will be 0.That's the difference between TD and TP.
    + 1


    No offense to that poster, but what he said was frikin' re ed.

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    ur a dumbass. Obviously you wont answer the question of whos had the better overall season.
    Kettle calling the pot black. I ask you to answer questions and you just call me a dumbass. I post links, you post smilies.

    To answer your question, Tim played better early, TP better now. Overall, Tim has played better. Tony has been fantastic and stepped up his game.

    http://www.nba.com/statistics/player/Efficiency.jsp

    Tim's efficiency has been better.

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    if parker cant even carry this team

    then there should be no discussion this is his team

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    Tony can carry the team, as he demonstrated with back to back 30 point games earlier this year.

    But the playoffs and vs elite teams is a different story.

    TP is not Kobe or D-Wade.

    I'm hoping for a 100% Manu with rust, 90% TP and 80% Duncan for the playoff run.

    The role players will have to just Jell on the fly.

    We'll see how good a coach POP really is this post season.

    If he can juggle his star players health, and somehow foster team cohesion in a limited time frame.. man its gonna be tough. Pop has to make almost every right move. The Spurs have the ingredients to win it all but the margin for error is small.

    Parker will have to do the heavy lifting with the role players, while Manu gets up to speed. As Manu finds his groove, he can shoulder more of the load and hopefully the new Spurs figure it out quick how to play with him.

    Duncan has to hold down the defense, use all he has for defense.

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    Tony has had a freak of a year. I am so proud of how he has elevated his game. He is imo, the 2nd best point guard in the league. He is going to have to have a huge playoff, if things currently stand.

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    Tony has had a freak of a year. I am so proud of how he has elevated his game. He is imo, the 2nd best point guard in the league. He is going to have to have a huge playoff, if things currently stand.
    are you serious?

    i got him behind cp3/deron/ghill/vaughn....

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    are you serious?

    i got him behind cp3/deron/ghill/vaughn....
    CP3, TP9, Hill, Deron, JV

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    back on topic: lyon, paris, marseille, vive les sang et or, oaller lensois!

    PS: we are way too many french people on this forum. By the way I am interested in doing a GTG for the payoffs

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    back on topic: lyon, paris, marseille, vive les sang et or, oaller lensois!

    PS: we are way too many french people on this forum. By the way I am interested in doing a GTG for the payoffs
    Le Raaaacing Cluuuub de Lens la lallalalala Le Racccing Club de Lens lalalalal ....

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    back on topic: lyon, paris, marseille, vive les sang et or, oaller lensois!

    PS: we are way too many french people on this forum. By the way I am interested in doing a GTG for the payoffs
    you're not canadian?

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    back on topic: lyon, paris, marseille, vive les sang et or, oaller lensois!

    PS: we are way too many french people on this forum. By the way I am interested in doing a GTG for the payoffs
    What does it mean?

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    Parker isn't playing more minutes per game since Manu's injury. So even if he is taking more shots per game, I don't think it is a real problem.
    And if Spurs continue like that, they will secure the #2 seed in the west before the last week of the regular season. Tony should get some rest before the playoffs.

    BTW, welcome on this board and Marseille.

    Rare for the first reply to sum things up so perfectly. The OP asked how long TP could carry the Spurs. I don't know. But with Tim being less than 100%, we aren't going far without Tony.

    You can't prevent freak injuries. But while Tony's minutes may be a little tougher, he isn't having to do anything super-human for the Spurs to get their wins. As long as his minutes aren't being affected, Tony should be fine for the playoffs.

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    He's killing us with his turnovers. Very reckless at times but he's still the man.

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