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    Had Lebron, Kobe, or any of the other franchise players on last year's team blown an ACL, you would be hearing alot more complaints from the American side...
    It is not like the Olympics is a new phenomenon. They have been around for a while and plenty of Amercians have played in them.

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    It is not like the Olympics is a new phenomenon. They have been around for a while and plenty of Amercians have played in them.
    And we have been very fortunate no season ending injuries for the NBA players have come from them...it is only a matter of time though.

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    And we have been very fortunate no season ending injuries for the NBA players have come from them...it is only a matter of time though.
    You do not think this was ever considered? Why complain now? Jordan along with many others have played and were willing to risk it.

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    I think the team should have a say in what their athlete gets involved in, but to want to ban players from playing for their countries - I strongly disagree.

    I know most are angry that Manu is now out for the playoffs, but some people really need to get a grip.
    As I said in another thread, it seems as though Manu's injury was a ticking time bomb. At least he had a fighting chance with it happening in the offseason.

    Manu's out. Time to move on.

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    Manu brother Leandro told to Clarin, Argentina newspaper that the Spurs told Manu to skip the Olympics but Manu decided to pay and now is paying the price.

    Segundo Leandro, seu irmão se machucou na semifinal dos Jogos Olímpicos, contra os Estados Unidos. “A direção do San Antonio disse que ele poderia ter este problema, mas ele (Manu) insistiu em ir para os Jogos Olímpicos”, relatou. “Agora terá que pagar as consequências de ter defendido a camisa argentina.”


    He also said the Spurs will put a clause in his next contract that will keep him out of Argentina NT

    “Quando Manu for renovar contrato, posso dizer, seguramente, que o San Antonio pedirá, por meio de uma cláusula, que ele não volte a defender a seleção argentina”, afirmou Leandro.
    I think our friends from Argentina can give us more details on this.

    This link is in Portuguese: http://playoff.uol.com.br/nba/leandr...dido-argentina

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    In the offseason, a huge group on NBA guys play in camps put on by Grgurich and the like. Or play in organized games at UCLA every single day of the summer. Do people who think that they shouldn't play in the Olympics, think they shouldn't play in those games either?
    The stuff that goes on in Houston in the off-season seems more likely to cause an injury than FIBA games.

    Also, I believe that Manu would never have signed the second contract with the Spurs if they said he could not go back to his National Team.

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    Manu brother Leandro told to Clarin, Argentina newspaper that the Spurs told Manu to skip the Olympics but Manu decided to pay and now is paying the price.





    He also said the Spurs will put a clause in his next contract that will keep him out of Argentina NT



    I think our friends from Argentina can give us more details on this.

    This link is in Portuguese: http://playoff.uol.com.br/nba/leandr...dido-argentina
    I think that could be the only thing that would prevent Manu from re-signing with the Spurs.

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    You do not think this was ever considered? Why complain now?
    Because it possibly affected the Spurs chances to compete for a championship this year...Fans of a team losing Kobe, Lebron or Wade due to olympic injury would do no different.

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    that's total bull .
    an olympic medal means all compared to a championship ring.

    Im sure charles barkely wears his gold medal everywhere.
    Ask Manu if he feels the same way.

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    I think that could be the only thing that would prevent Manu from re-signing with the Spurs.

    As much as I love what Manu has given to the Spurs, if he is not willing to retire from the National Team at this point then I do not see the Spurs signing him again. And that would be a sad, sad day.

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    A Gold Medal representing my Country would mean more to me than an NBA le. But that is just me.
    You ing serious?


    A US Gold Medal means absolutely nothing to me.

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    Two more years of Tim Duncan's career wasted.

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    As much as I love what Manu has given to the Spurs, if he is not willing to retire from the National Team at this point then I do not see the Spurs signing him again. And that would be a sad, sad day.
    If he accepts a major salary reduction I think they will. And one thing is for sure, Manu would much rather play for the Spurs for free than the Bobcats for a billion dollars.

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    If he accepts a major salary reduction I think they will. And one thing is for sure, Manu would much rather play for the Spurs for free than the Bobcats for a billion dollars.
    We'll see, I certainly hope so. I had no problem with Manu playing in Beijing. Seeing the pride and joy on his face as he carried his country's flag in the opening ceremony only increased my appreciation for him. But all things have their time and, IMO, if Manu is to have several more productive years in the NBA, he must be willing to end his association with the National Team.

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    Sorry MB but what costed the spurs this was their own ownership by not bringing in enough talent to surrond the big 3.
    when the rest of the league got stronger last year and this year, all the spurs did was save money and just over load TD,Manu and TP's jobs.
    Very well. See my other thread.

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    Tony is playing this summer, I think.


    Great, he`s coming to my hometown for EuroChampionship

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    I said it in the other thread, being chosen to play for your country is a huge honour. Stop this bull .

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    "Hindsight is 20/20"

    The real question to me is whether Ginobili would have had the surgery earlier if he hadn't played in the summer. I don't think anyone knows that.

    In general I'm in favor of international compe ion like the Olympics, World Baseball Classic, etc. However, it is an issue when VERY high paid superstars hurt themselves in the offseason. More importantly, they don't get a chance to rest in the off-season, which is an important part of staying healthy. Pick-up games are not the same as compe ion.

    As usual, I see both sides of this issue.

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    [QUOTE=Kori Ellis;3266499]I don't think Manu playing in the Olympics was necessarily his downfall this year.
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    It's a stress fracture ... definitely related to playing too much basket-ball, and not playing in the olympics would have definitely helped anyway you slice it, sorry kori but you're wrong on this one... he needed to rest that ankle, he didnt listen to his body and decided to play in the playoffs and then to play in the olympics, sorry but this is all on manu ... he's responsible for his health

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    That's a bull thesis MB, and usually you put more thought into your thread-starting post.

    Just because a player signs an NBA contract does not mean the team owns his soul. For many sportsmen/women the chance to play for their country represents the pinnacle of their careers, and wanting to deny them that because they play for a professional team is just being selfish. Whilst many around here may not agree, the Spurs are not the only thing in the Universe that has importance.

    Also, Manu's injury was there before the Olympics. Injuries happen at any time - practice, pre-season, regular season, playoffs, mucking around with mates - it's just luck of the draw.

    A better idea is how about shortening the NBA season? 82 games is utterly absurd. How about 58 games - you play every other team home and away and then it's done. Or even 62 games - you play the teams in your division 3 times to help with tie-breakers.

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    F those who disagree with me too.

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    F those who disagree with me too.
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    F those who disagree with me too.
    at least its clear

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    I don't think Manu playing in the Olympics was necessarily his downfall this year.

    He was hurt in last year's playoffs. He was cleared by doctors to play in the summer, and was told that eventually the problem would happen and he'd need surgery. He knew that. The Spurs knew that. He was cleared medically and give permission by the team to go.

    Let's say that he didn't play in the Olympics and just stayed home to rest.

    Then training camp would come around, and sometime in the season, the injury would happen and he'd be sent off to have surgery DURING the season, then miss subsquent months in rehab.

    So, to me, either way Manu's 2008-09 NBA season was f'd up because of the injury that began in last year's playoffs... not because of the Olympics.
    No offense, Kori, but that is some poor logic.

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    F those who disagree with me too.
    Try making a decent argument.

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