Mvp

[Lady M]

it's the first time that Timmy isn't the 1st spurs on the list

[Frenzy]

take that kobe haha

[024]

take that kobe haha

i was hoping kobe would win it. no mvp has won the championship since tim duncan.

[NewJerSpur]

So LeBron "WALKED" away with the award this year; I hope that thing "TRAVELS" well. That last part didn't flow so smoothly but it still conveys my point.

[SouthTexasRancher]

Lebron is the


Oh and the Spurs are the only team with 2 players in the Voting (TP:8th and TD:11th)

Congrats to Lebron. Kinda put a good old fashion ass whooping on Kobe the Whiner!

[Ice009]

TP 8th ? i can't believe it

I'm pretty sure Manu finished 8th last year and TD 1 spot behind him.

Now I am not saying this to bag on TP, but I am saying this because I think people forgot how good Manu was last season before he got injured.

Anyway TP has taken it up another level this season, possibly superstar status. AWESOME stuff TP.

[Ice009]

it's the first time that Timmy isn't the 1st spurs on the list

I'm pretty sure Manu got more votes than TD last season.

Does anyone have last season's list?

[Ice009]

Having another look at that how the did Billups finish higher than Parker and HOW THE does Billups get more free throws than TP? This is some BS.

[Mel_13]

I'm pretty sure Manu got more votes than TD last season.

Does anyone have last season's list?

Tim 7th
Manu 10th

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3384468

[NewJerSpur]

Having another look at that how the did Billups finish higher than Parker and HOW THE does Billups get more free throws than TP? This is some BS.

I think Tony did himself in with the "Can't get up for the OKC's of the NBA" line. Must've rubbed some voters the wrong way. Billups has helped transform Denver with his leadership on both ends of the floor and proved his value to Detroit upon his exit.

Regardless, Tony is was the Spurs' MVP for a good chunk of the season and all of the playoffs.

[Ice009]

I think Tony did himself in with the "Can't get up for the OKC's of the NBA" line. Must've rubbed some voters the wrong way. Billups has helped transform Denver with his leadership on both ends of the floor and proved his value to Detroit upon his exit.

Regardless, Tony is was the Spurs' MVP for a good chunk of the season and all of the playoffs.

It's still BS. The injury depleted Spurs only finished 1 game behind the Nuggets didn't they? TP was one of the main reasons for that.

How many injuries did Denver have this season?

The free throw stat I read a few weeks ago and was amazed that someone like TP who penetrates a lot of the time got less free throws than Billups who is more of a jump shooter.

Looks like I was wrong about Manu finishing ahead of TD last season. I thought I read here that Manu finished ahead, maybe I did and whoever wrote the list last season had the wrong order?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ROFLMAO @ dirk being first team all nba this year. Has it really come to this?

I guess they are forced to do it to make his forgotten mvp more legit.

[NewJerSpur]

It's still BS. The Spurs injury depleted Spurs only finished 1 game behind the Nuggets did they? TP was one of the main reasons for that.

How many injuries did Denver have this season?

The free throw stat I read a few weeks ago and was amazed that someone like TP who penetrates a lot of the time got less free throws than Billups who is more of a jump shooter.

Looks like I was wrong about Manu finishing ahead of TD last season. I thought I read here that Manu finished ahead, maybe I did, but whoever wrote the list last season had the wrong order?

How come the "seeding" argument works in support of Tony but not in defense of Pop? Not saying you specifically are the one implying this but it is something I've noticed in general, lol.

I guess it comes down to the way you perceive each player's role and their value: You have one player (Tony) who carried a team for much of the year (especially offensively) and another (Chauncey) who influenced the overall level of his team's game and changed the iden y of another with his departure (for the bad); different types of impact to measure.

As far as FTs: More people going for headfakes on jumpshots maybe? That and Tony getting to the basket before defenders having the chance to foul him, maybe? Not sure.

[duncan228]

First team:
G: Kobe Bryant
G: Dwyane Wade
F: LeBron James
F: Dirk Nowitzki
C: Dwight Howard

Second team:
G: Chris Paul
G: Chauncey Billups
F: Tim Duncan
F: Paul Pierce
C: Yao Ming

Third team
G: Tony Parker
G: Brandon Roy
F: Pau Gasol
F: Danny Granger
C: Shaquille O'Neal

Is this yours or the official Teams? Is the All Defensive Team out yet? I didn't think they'd been released yet.

[Josepatches_]

As far as FTs: More people going for headfakes on jumpshots maybe? That and Tony getting to the basket before defenders having the chance to foul him, maybe? Not sure.

Close games too.Billups is a great FT shooter so he has the ball at the end of the games.In the Spurs the ball usually goes to Mason or Finley.

2 or more FTs per game easily

[NewJerSpur]

Close games too.Billups is a great FT shooter so he has the ball at the end of the games.In the Spurs the ball usually goes to Mason or Finley.

2 or more FTs per game easily

Good point. He's definitely a deal closer at the line.

[duncan228]

Just for the fun of it.

MVP winners: Age-by-age breakdown
By Official Release, NBA.com

LeBron James, 24, was named the winner of the Most Valuable Player presented by Kia Motors on Monday afternoon. He is the youngest MVP ever voted the award by sportswriters and broadcasters (who have been at it since 1980-81). Here's a look at the NBA's past MVP winners as broken down by age.

23

23-Bill Russell (1958-born: 2/12/34)
23-Wes Unseld (1969-born: 3/14/46)
23-Wilt Chamberlain (1960-born: 8/21/36)
23-Bob McAdoo (1975—born: 9/25/51)
23-Bob Pet (1956-born: 12/12/32)

24

24-Moses Malone (1979-born: 3/23/55)
24-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1971—born: 4/16/47)
24-Dave Cowens (1973—born: 10/25/48)
24-Oscar Robertson (1964-born: 11/24/38)
24-LeBron James (1984-born: 12/30/84)

25

25-Michael Jordan (1988-born: 2/17/63)
25-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1972 —born: 4/16/47)
25-Allen Iverson (2001-born: 6/17/75)
25-Bill Walton (1978—born: 11/5/52)

26

26-Bill Russell (1961-born: 2/12/34)
26-Tim Duncan (2002-born: 4/25/76)
26-Bob Pet (1959: born: 12/12/32)

27

27-Bill Russell (1962-born: 2/12/34)
27-Moses Malone (1982-born: 3/23/55)
27-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1974-born: 4/16/47)
27-Tim Duncan (2003-born: 4/25/76)
27-Kevin Garnett (2004-born: 5/19/78)
27-Willis Reed (1970-born: 6/25/42)
27-Magic Johnson (1987—born: 8/14/59)
27-Larry Bird (1984—born: 12/7/56)

28

28-Bill Russell (1963-born: 2/12/34)
28-Michael Jordan (1991-born: 2/17/63)
28-Shaquille O'Neal (2000-born: 3/6/72)
28 -Moses Malone (1983-born: 3/23/55)
28-Dirk Nowitzki (2007-born: 6/19/78)
28-Bob Cousy (1957-born: 8/9/28)
28 -Larry Bird (1985—born: 12/7/56)

29

29-Michael Jordan (1992-born: 2/17/63)
29-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1976-born: 4/16/47)
29-David Robinson (1995-born: 8/6/65)
29 -Magic Johnson (1989—born: 8/14/59)
29-Wilt Chamberlain (1966-born: 8/21/36)
29-Kobe Bryant (2008-born: 8/23/78)
29-Larry Bird (1986—born: 12/7/56)

30

30-Bill Russell (1965-born: 2/12/34)
30-Charles Barkley (1993-born: 2/20/63)
30-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1977-born: 4/16/47)
30-Magic Johnson (1990—born: 8/14/59)
30-Wilt Chamberlain (1967-born: 8/21/36)

31

31-Hakeem Olajuwon (1994-born: 1/21/63)
31-Steve Nash (2005-born: 2/7/74)
31 -Julius Erving (1981—born: 2/22/50)
31-Wilt Chamberlain (1968-born: 8/21/36)

32

32-Steve Nash (2006-born: 2/7/74)

33

33-Michael Jordan (1996-born: 2/17/63)
33-Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (1980-born: 4/16/47)
33-Karl Malone (1997-born: 7/24/63)

35

35-Michael Jordan (1998-born: 2/17/63)
35-Karl Malone (1999-born: 7/24/63)

[daslicer]

One interesting fact I found about the MVP winners is the oldest to win the MVP was MJ and Malone at age 35. I guess once you pass 35 it marks the end of a player playing at an mvp level.

[romain.star]

Everyone knows who the man on the Spurs is. Anyone who knows basketball, anyway. Duncan can put up similar offensive numbers to Parker, but the real difference is in the defense. Duncan is an anchor, whereas Parker is a liability.

uh oh... C'mon, Parker's defense is not always great but it's not a liability.

[romain.star]

Really? In the playoffs, when it mattered most, he couldn't guard a D-League player who is 5'8". I won't even mention players like Luke Ridnour that he couldn't guard in the regular season.

Barrea spoke to Parker's defense, or lack thereof in an interview during the series. He said something to the effect of "The coaching staff tells me Parker is not good at guarding the pick and roll, so I try to exploit it as much as I can." I respect that he didn't just say "The guy is getting his points, but he can't guard me on the other end, either.".

overall, Parker CAN be a very good defender.
I don't know why he doesn't play good defense on a regular basis but he can do it.
He proved it in the past and will prove it again.

That being said, don't expect me to tell you he is a great defender cause he's not.

[Chieflion]

the forward list, where is Kevin Durant?

This season, Durant > Granger/Pierce