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Just like any article that would mistakenly forget to list a person's political faction, right?
Stephen Colbert declared himself King of SC when he went missing. Looks like he can reclaim his throne.
Just like any article that would mistakenly forget to list a person's political faction, right?
Thats a ing bull perspective of the highest order. I have gotten no further in this thread upon reading this.
He is an elected public official who just-so-happens to hold an office that numbers 50 total in this country.
He is tasked with the day-to-day operation of a state in this union. You think CEOs of major corporations can take unannounced vacations?! no. Most of those CEOs arent dealing with nearly the money a governor does.
Him being indignant about it is even worse. Its like celebrities ing about paparazzi, when politicians about the media, they should have looked at the job description.
You were elected by the people, the media's job is to inform those people. When the highest ranking state official goes mysteriously missing, thats news, thats life.
Also, Buenos Aires. Congratulations, South Carolina, you elected a pedophile.
Thanks Dark, I needed to hear some pissed off indignation in this thread!
This ranks right up there with the replies of, "So what if Alberto Gonzalez has no clue what's going on in the DoJ? You can't hold it against him! After all, he doesn't recall!"
you need to reread my theory and retry your "gotcha"Just like any article that would mistakenly forget to list a person's political faction, right?
wow. a pedophile? i must've missed something.
What's the difference between Fox News making a "mistake" and listing Sanford as a Democrat, and a news story "accidentally" burying a person's political affiliation far down in the story?
sniff sniff. do i smell straw?
He's referring to things like this: http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2003/27883.htm
And this... www.globalmarch.org/child_labour/image/ARGENTINA.pdfChild abuse and pros ution continued to occur, but there was progress in some areas. In the city of Buenos Aires, the Council for the Rights of Girls, Boys, and Adolescents implemented a hot line and a network of neighborhood defenders offices to assist victims. The council received 71 reports of child commercial sexual exploitation in 2002. In conjunction with other agencies and organizations, such as UNICEF, the council also conducted active educational and awareness raising efforts. Prosecutors and police pursued cases of Internet child pornography and sought additional legal tools to confront such cybercrime. On September 2, Buenos Aires provincial police reportedly dismantled a child pros ution ring, detaining 6 women and 1 man who exploited 15 girls ranging in age from 8 to 17.
Women and children are trafficked from Paraguay, Bolivia, and
Brazil for commercial sexual exploitation, and migrants from
neighboring countries are sometimes trafficked to Argentina for
other types of forced labor.
In 2001, UNICEF published a study carried out in Buenos Aires,
Córdoba, Villa María , San Francisco, Resistencia, Posadas,
Neuquen and Puerto Madryn. A total of 326 interviews were
carried out, where 52% of the interviewees were child victims of
commercial sexual exploitation.
Child and adolescent victims (of varying ages) of commercial
sexual exploitation have been found within overt spaces for
commercial sex: streets, service stations, plazas, and parks.
Victims of CSEC have also been found within covert spaces for
commercial sex such as: saunas, brothels, whiskey bars,
massage parlours, etc, within each of the cities studied by
UNICEF.
How is that a strawman? What is the difference between Fox News making a 'mistake' and a news article making a 'mistake'?
You can't say that one was obviously deliberate and the other was a mistake without further clarification.
didn't bother reading it, but i did a search on both articles for "sanford". didn't turn up anything, so i'll just await DR's response.
Well, this guy has the Clinton Democrats cinched up for 2012 now...
Yeah, its a leap. But if youre allowed to theorize, so am I. I could be equally as wrong, but here's my premise.
1. How in the does a governor cultivate a relationship with some broad in Argentina? Whatever, we'll let that one slide and say "Ok, I'll go with that."
2. Having said "lover", why would a governor risk his career flying to a different country to visit said lover? What? You meeting the parents?
3. South America isnt exactly the most lawful place in the world to visit. Its probably beautiful (from pics Ive seen), obviously like any country, nearly all of its citizens are very decent people, just really average place to live with beautiful scenery. But their law enforcement is nowhere near as effective or uncorruptable as other parts of the world. They're also generally more tolerant to what we in America would call "sexual deviance". Not children, per say, but more transves es, pros ution and orgies. In a place of lawlessness, corruption and sexual deviance (all by American standards), it isnt unthinkable that one could find a place to...well, be a sick ing pedophile who deserves to die.
4. Back to the "off the grid" travel...if he were having a relationship with an Argentine woman, it would make more sense to bring her to the states. I cant, for the life of me, underestimate a man's intelligence who won a governor's seat. I am not saying he's brilliant or even smarter than anyone here. But what I can say is he isnt stupid. If he had a woman on the side (in Argentina), he would know this could end his public career if caught. Therefore, to lessen the chances of being caught, one would have to minimize risk. Which brings me to the final point...
5. Going off the grid and taking an international trip is not minimizing risk. Its maximizing risk. Its political suicide. He knew that when he left. His career is completely done, now. He will probably resign before July's end in shame. Not because he cheated on his wife, but for dereliction of duty. He knowingly threw his entire life's work into the ter for some Argentinian ass?
All this leads me to two possible conclusions:
Theory 1: He was ing some hot Latin chick and she so entranced him that the call to his lesser brain was too much to resist. After all the he went through with the stimulus, coupled with his other wacky-ass, media-driven publicity stunts (the carrying pigs gig), he just didnt want to do it anymore. He is done, he quit. He booked the next flight out of town, family, job and responsibility be damned...Im going to lay with my Latin princess tonight. When I come back, Im done and I know it.
Theory 2: Hes an actor, quite a good one to become governor. He isnt the smartest in the world, but he isnt dumb. In his twisted mind, what he was going to do made sense and he believed he could get away with it depending on how long he was away. He rationalized "4 days isnt much, a quick interview about my whereabouts and boom...done, non-issue". He's like any other powerful person who walks the face of the Earth. At some point, whats normal becomes below you. The history books a littered with the deviance of the powerful and what they feel they can do that the unwashed masses cannot. Its always a possibility. The child trade is a very, very real epidemic on a global scale. 3rd world countries are a strange destination for powerful white males to travel to unbeknownst to their family and staff. Youre hiding something, youre partaking in something you want no one to know about. A hot, adult Latin piece of perfect ass isnt one of those. Thats something you brag about to other powerful males.
Just a theory. We'll never know, obviously, and if I were a reporter of any sort, I certainly would never write what I just wrote as it has no ground to stand on. But if I were a reporter, I'd book a flight to Argentina and get with customs and the Embassy to see where he landed, where he stayed, what he did and so on. Then, I'd follow his foot steps and ask the locals about rich, white Americans and what they like to do in their country. I would expect their answers to be less than admirable. I would then dig deeper. And deeper. Maybe there is a known local spot for deviant people. Go there, ask around. "You seen this man?" holding his photo. So on and so on.
If nothing...great, no reason to doubt him. If something...Pulitzer.
whoa. that's uh....a bit long winded. yeah, i still have "who, what, when, where, why" questions, but i think a pedophile is a little far fetched, but we all have the right to whine. i mean theorize.
It may be long winded as I am prone to be in writing and speech, but its what I think.
I have a habit of seeing the faults in my argument and addressing them in mid-paragraph. It makes for long posts (and conversations).
Look, bottom line. Powerful, connected WASPs do not normally go off the grid to a third world country to cheat on their wife with an adult, unless youre secretly gay. Add being a Governor in that mix, and the impllications in mind, are clear.
1. Hes gay
2. He likes children
3. Both
Pedophilia is a bit too far. I think I'd believe Medved's theory of the Argentinean president more than I would the pedophile route.
There's a lot more to this story I'm guessing. Non of it makes sense at all. A rational person just doesn't think like Sanford must have thought the past week.
This might have worked 50 years ago... but now? No way in .
Some people from page 1 look pretty bad about now.
Just about all conservatives are trying to spin this someway or another.Some people from page 1 look pretty bad about now.
I think I heard more talk about Clinton today on talk radio than I did about the Gov.
From his press conference, it's obvious that he's into necrophilic bestiality.
On top of that, he's Republican (gasp).
wtf? how did they get emails between them this fast?
jesus that's just insanse.
cool....they are starting to release some of the emails.
I know this came out after you wrote that but...
Been holding these since December huh? What about that liberal media bias?
http://www.thestate.com/sanford/story/839350.htmlBelow are excerpts of e-mails, obtained by The State newspaper in December, between Gov. Mark Sanford's personal e-mail account and Maria, a woman in Buenos Aires, Argentina.
The State has removed the woman's full name and other personal details, including her address, e-mail address and children's names.
The woman who South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford had an affair with lives on Republica de la India in the Palermo neighborhood of Argentina.
Sanford's office Wednesday did not dispute the authenticity of the emails.
McClatchy special correspondent Angeles Mase visited the 14-story apartment building in Buenos Aires Wednesday where the woman lives, according to the emails, which included her address. The woman at the address answered to the name in the emails and, at first, agreed to speak to a visitor, but she declined after the visitor identified herself as a reporter.
The doorman at the building, shown a photograph of Sanford, said he did not recognize him. According to the doorman, the woman has two sons, one a teenager of driving age and the other younger. The emails refer to the woman's two sons.
From Gov. Sanford,
Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:24 a.m.
“One, tomorrow leave at 5 a.m. for New York and meetings. Will think about you on its streets and wish I was going to be there later in the month when you are there. Tomorrow night back to Philadelphia for the start of the National Governor's Conference through the weekend. Back to Columbia for Tuesday and then on Wednesday, as I think I had told you, taking the family to China, Tibet, Nepal, India, Thailand and then back through Hong Kong on world wind tour. Few days home then to Bahamas for 5 days on a friend’s boat for the last break of the summer. The following weekend have been asked to spend it out in Aspen, Colorado with McCain - which has kicked up the whole VP talk all over again in the press back home ...
Two, mutual feelings .... You have a particular grace and calm that I adore. You have a level of sophistication that so fitting with your beauty. I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night’s light - but hey, that would be going into sexual details ...
Three and finally, while all the things above are all too true - at the same time we are in a hopelessly - or as you put it impossible - or how about combine and simply say hopelessly impossible situation of love. How in the world this lightening strike snuck up on us I am still not quite sure. As I have said to you before I certainly had a special feeling about you from the first time we met, but these feelings were contained and I genuinely enjoyed our special friendship and the comparing of all too many personal notes ...
Lastly I also suspect I feel a little vulnerable because this is ground I have never certainly never covered before - so if you have pearls of wisdom on how we figure all this out please let me know... In the meantime please sleep soundly knowing that despite the best efforts of my head my heart cries out for you, your voice, your body, the touch of your lips, the touch of your finger tips and an even deeper connection to your soul.”
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From Maria,
Wednesday, July 9, 2008 8:14 p.m.
“As I told you I shouldn't have done this trip but I would have felt worst if I wouldn't have come because it was too over the date, he is a very nice guy, great heart ... but unfortunately I am not in love with him ... You are my love ... something hard to believe even for myself as it's also a kind of impossible love, not only because of distance but situation. Sometimes you don't choose things, they just happen... I can't redirect my feelings and I am very happy with mine towards you.”
Family Values are certainly taking a beating lately in the GOP tent.
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