If Sheed is in, we're getting a Boner
So it's a win-win![]()
Keep him. At least if you know he sucks, you can fire the water boy.
If Sheed is in, we're getting a Boner
So it's a win-win![]()
im good either way, but he had his moments though. if hes riding the end of the bench i dont see him being a bad back up option. 3 mill is a lot but hes not a bad player.
Keep Bonner just in case. NBA Finals 2010 Spurs vs. Celtics, Matt Bonner finals MVP.
Scal would demolish him
If we get Sheed, then yea it's time to can Bonner's ass!!! I swear this dude is just plain garbage, where was he in the playoffs? It's like a sick dying horse that wants to keep going on, just put it out of it's ing misery already. See ya Bonner.
Yes.
Bonner is a SF not PF. If he wants to stay he better start playing defense and grabbing rebounds instead of being a one trick pony.
Not in Boston.
If you can salary dump Bonner without giving assets, ti's a no brainer but I doubt Spurs will be able to do it.
I would be fine with Spurs having Duncan, Sheed, Bonner, Blair, Mahinmi and Gist as front line for the start of the season. If the young players suck, you can always do a trade for a good big before the trade deadline with expiring contracts and future round picks as main assets.
Bonner's been here long enough that he knows the system better than any of the new guys we're bringing in. He can play good minutes during the regular season to keep our other bigs fresh for the playoffs. I don't see why we don't keep him as an 11th or 12th man.
I agree that bonner will look better with reduced minutes and that his knowledge of the system and acquired chemistry give him some added value over all the new guys (mahinmi included). but he is not a good defender. he is mobile for his size, but he doesnt anticipate well, is often out of place, and makes at least 2 stupid fouls per game. by the same token, he is not a good rebounder. he's ok as a 3pt specialist, but he is most definitely a one trick pony.
and the series stats against dirk mean nothing. 1st, because 19.2 on 49% is good. and 2nd, because the spurs were focusing on dirk while letting howard go off. tim is the anchor, and he isnt what he used to be, but the rest has to rotate quickly and to the right place around him. the dallas frontline killed us in large part because bonner, finley and KT did a poor job of that. dirk's scoring went up against denver? well, howard and dampier went way down against them. I wonder if dampier didnt average a career high ppg for a playoff series against the spurs.
its ok to value bonner, but there is no need to make him out to be a dirk stopping defensive player when he is not.
IMO Bonner is expendable regardless.
But even more so with Sheed in the mix.
Shamsports and draft express both have Camby at $9.65 million this year.
hoopshype is the only one listing him at $7.65 million. They are alos known for being very slow in updating contract extensions when changes are made (like 6 months later)
You decide who is right...
it's $9,650,000
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...oBSzXQQ&gid=14
no, he won't be a goner, instead a boner
a known quan y at 10-15 is always a waste IMO. you need upside and potential in those spots.
I'm one of Bonner's biggest supporters, but if Sheed is here, we've no need for Bonner, he won't crack the playoff rotation, and we'll make the playoffs with or without him. give his spot to some young guy
Originally Posted by ElNono View Post
We must have seen a different season. Bonner was routinely abused, and on top of that could not grab a board to save his life. If his shot was not falling (pretty much every game since January), then he was detriment to the team.
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Bonner's days in SA are numbered, his defense is garbage, so he is really just a role player, 3 point specialist. He should come off the bench and not start. We need to replace him at Center ASAP. Sheed would fit nicely at the spot.
IF we can somehow package Bonner and Finley in a trade to acquire a productive veteran post player, then yes pull the trigger. Otherwise I think it's wise to hold on to him until the mid-season trade deadline. I would consider him insurance. To begin the season I would rather play Blair, Ian, and Gist over Bonner. If for whatever reason those 3 players can't contribute (which unfortunately is a dooms day scenario) then Bonner could then get minutes. However, Bonner went into a s when Drew Gooden arrived so it's hard for me to imagine him handling next season well at all no matter what happens.
The more I think about...maybe we should dump him as soon as we can?
I disagree with O_V about Bonner's defense..I don't think he's bad or anything, but I don't really see how anybody can call him a good defender..he's average..
Matt Bonner had ONE problem last year..it wasn't his lack of balls, it wasn't his rebounding, and it wasn't his defense..the problem with Bonner was that he was turned into our starting big man..Matt Bonner is NOT a starter..
if you put him on the bench, he's a SIGNIFICANT asset..the guy was shooting around 50% from 3s at a late part of the season..he's a lights-out shooter..if he's coming off the bench, he has little pressure, and he doesn't have to rebound or defend against the other teams best big men..he can simply stick to playing against the other team's bench, which will make him look a lot better..
If you can trade him for something positive, do it, but if not, then he's a good bench player..I'd at least keep him until the season, at least until I see what Mahinmi/Blair/Gist can give us..if 2 of those 3 guys are significantly productive in the frontcourt, then you can trade him..but as of right now, they are all unknowns..
Keep Bonner, say what you will about him but I welcome his 3 point shooting for a few minutes a night.
Couldn't agree more. Bonner was forced into a role that required more than he was capable of giving. As a role player, Bonner would be a nice piece to this team.
Bonner defended Amare well, some of those calls were very questionable.
Anyway, I'm concerned now that Carter is in Orlando, Sheed may rejoin his UNC alumni so where does that leave the Spurs?
Bonner only needs some at ude correction. Numerout times this season I observes him take fouls and give up the basket. Shoot, Bonner is built like a tight end and should hammer people in ther lane. Maybe Blair will rub off on him and we can have Bruise Brothers II. He might be a perfect fit in NY.
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