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    Thats the beautiful thing about the off season, the mystery. Who knows maybe the spurs stay with gooden and bonner
    Till then let the good discussion continue
    Hey Eman, Not bad for your 1st thread. Way to pick a good topic and , I am sure will add the right guy to our team!!!

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    No thanks, we will sign Sheed by Thursday morning.
    Hey Eman, Not bad for your 1st thread. Way to pick a good topic and , I am sure will add the right guy to our team!!!
    Thanks!

    This off season has fully put back faith in our FO, i'm sure pop is just sittin' back drinking some wine and waiting till thursday to finally assemble his team! then we will once again go crazy and talk about how we cant wait till season starts!

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    You just got to see what he did against the Lakers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud3SBbK_QxY

    Plus if he gets a 2 year contract we can always trade him and get some decent diverse talent when we ship over Splitter

    If we can sign Gortat or Sheed this guy is available. He has playoff and Finals experience.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0qCnDmEMEE&NR=1

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    If we can sign Gortat or Sheed this guy is available. He has playoff and Finals experience.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0qCnDmEMEE&NR=1
    haha i loved rasho when he played for us, but right now i dont think he's fast enough to play with the young guns. idk that was one of my pet peeves about him was his quickness. Although once he was set it was tough for anyone to get to the basket...hmm i just think if we use the money wisely we could get Rasho 2.0 in Gortat haha

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    LOL..come on now..I'm for 'Sheed too, but there's a reason a number of teams are gonna be looking at Gortat..

    Wallace is definitely my #1 option, but Gortat would be a very good Plan B IMO..his defense against Gasol and Bynum in the Finals was very good, which makes it even more appealing..
    Far from it.

    Sheed can play decent d and can score. We need a long term center though not these one stint guys here.

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    Gortat looks passable as a journeyman in those videos, but nothing to hang an offseason bigman's hopes on.

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    i dont know guys. sheed is a ing hot head. always has been. you cant teach an old dog new tricks. his ego is bigger than the att center. gortat seems like a better fit. i just saw him pushing around bynum and gasol like es. if you think he looked good now consider his current coach. under pop and our system he will look like a ing allstar. (maybe not an allstar)

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    i dont know guys. sheed is a ing hot head. always has been. you cant teach an old dog new tricks. his ego is bigger than the att center. gortat seems like a better fit. i just saw him pushing around bynum and gasol like es. if you think he looked good now consider his current coach. under pop and our system he will look like a ing allstar. (maybe not an allstar)
    Couldn't disagree more.

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    Yeah but we won a championship with Rasho.

    And he's 7 ft and protect the paint. Rasho just made too much money.......

    Gortat can do that as well.
    What, make too much money? I agree.

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    Far from it.

    Sheed can play decent d and can score. We need a long term center though not these one stint guys here.
    sheed aint getting any younger. he does stupid like shoot threes left handed. we dont need his scoring. all we need is a rebounder and a shot blocker. i dont see why everyone here want him. we all agreed ben wallace was past his prime. same goes for sheed.

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    Couldn't disagree more.
    with what? the allstar comment.lol

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    i like gortat but he will never, ever have the talent that sheed possesses.

    the league will tremble in fear if the spurs sign rasheed, thats all you need to know.

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    the league will tremble in fear if the spurs sign rasheed, thats all you need to know.
    I agree with that comment. Regardless of how good Gortat is or can be, the league will serious go into convulsions if we sign Sheed and not Gortat. That alone would be a fun thing to see. I can see Lakers, Cavs, and Magic fans now saying: "have you seen their starting lineup?"

    Parker
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    Wallace

    "Yikes!!"

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    OK, I will leave Gortat alone, he is just a wet dream anyway, we will never sign him.
    And in this you are probably correct. He's too risky to make an offer for, and the Spurs can't really afford him. This would be the absolutely perfect place for him, though. That said, Rasheed isn't any more attainable than Gortat is. To get either, they have to want to be in San Antonio.

    IMHO, therein lies the problem. In order to win, there needs to be balance on the floor. if Gortat, can't establish himself on the O, then teams will try to get the ball to rotate to Gortat. He needs to be able to pass out of a double-team or be able to split a double and PLAY D. The play D part, he seems to have. But, again...balance is so key. And to me, pretty good d, limited o...not so balanced.
    I never said the guy couldn't score. He's a good rebounder, he has good touch around the rim, he's mobile. What I'm saying is that I'd take him on the Spurs if he had zero offensive game and only scored on putbacks and layups. It's a given that the center is going to be given opportunities if he's on the floor with Manu, Parker, Duncan and RJ.

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    i like gortat but he will never, ever have the talent that sheed possesses.

    the league will tremble in fear if the spurs sign rasheed, thats all you need to know.
    lol nobody is going to be scared of a freaking 35 year old, 40 % shooter...get real.

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    I agree with that comment. Regardless of how good Gortat is or can be, the league will serious go into convulsions if we sign Sheed and not Gortat. That alone would be a fun thing to see. I can see Lakers, Cavs, and Magic fans now saying: "have you seen their starting lineup?"

    Parker
    Ginobili
    Jefferson
    Duncan
    Wallace

    "Yikes!!"
    IT would look great 5 years ago

    Duncan is on the decline, sheed is almost done..Manu is coming off a season ending injury...this spurs team is good on paper but they are not the players they were so it is still not the best team.

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    i like gortat but he will probably never, ever have the talent that sheed possessed five years ago.
    fify

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    haha im sorry but if tim is still gonna be able to be serviceable at 34 than id like to believe that rasheed is still gonna be also at 35.

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    IT would look great 5 years ago

    Duncan is on the decline, sheed is almost done..Manu is coming off a season ending injury...this spurs team is good on paper but they are not the players they were so it is still not the best team.
    this is true. i will be pissed if we sign sheed. we need to get younger not older.

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    I just want a center that can bang and rebound and get his points from put backs and dunks. So to me Gor fits that mold and he abused Gasol and Bynum so just for that fact I would sign him over Sheed.

    The other thing is that Gor loves to set picks and can actualy do that unlike Gooden who for some unknown reason can't figure how to set a pick?

    At the end of the day I don't care who we get just as long as we get a freakinn Center!!!!

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    haha im sorry but if tim is still gonna be able to be serviceable at 34 than id like to believe that rasheed is still gonna be also at 35.
    Fair enough. I've already said that Rasheed could help the Spurs by basically being a better version of what Bonner was last year. He can camp out at the three point line all season long if he plays defense, blocks and rebounds.

    That said, there's very little doubt that as traditional centers go, Gortat's the best case scenario for the Spurs. He's 25 years old, he's athletic, he's an excellent rebounder and shot blocker, he has good hands, he's got a high basketball IQ and he's no doubt tired of having to be Dwight Howard's backup. His acquisition also makes Splitter into a gigantic trade asset.

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    Rasheed for sure!

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    to compare sheed and gortat is like comparing Duncan with mahinmi....There is absolutly no comparison..Gortat's range is about 1ft from the basket and at this point in hs career is a reserve only type player. Sheed will be high on spurs wishlist as gortat should be right around the emergency bigman plan portion of the list..

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    to compare sheed and gortat is like comparing Duncan with mahinmi....There is absolutly no comparison..Gortat's range is about 1ft from the basket and at this point in hs career is a reserve only type player. Sheed will be high on spurs wishlist as gortat should be right around the emergency bigman plan portion of the list..
    yeah i don't understand the comparison either. Rasheed is a known commodity while Gortat has very little experience, 69 regular season games played and not much to show for it except a few good games. Rasheed will command the full MLE how much would Gortat command? Someone will probably overpay for Gortat hopefully it's not us.

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    Fair enough. I've already said that Rasheed could help the Spurs by basically being a better version of what Bonner was last year. He can camp out at the three point line all season long if he plays defense, blocks and rebounds.

    That said, there's very little doubt that as traditional centers go, Gortat's the best case scenario for the Spurs. He's 25 years old, he's athletic, he's an excellent rebounder and shot blocker, he has good hands, he's got a high basketball IQ and he's no doubt tired of having to be Dwight Howard's backup. His acquisition also makes Splitter into a gigantic trade asset.
    Athletic??? I will have what you are having... stop drinking the kool-aid.

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