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    maybe its just me but some people would rather get kills in the back than help out and capture points. if all you want is kills play TD. if not then be ready to play well as a team.
    It just depends on the gametype. The only time I play domination/headquarters are when they come up in Team Tac lobbys, and admittedly, with those gametypes, I could see having a lot of snipers on your team as being hugely disadvantageous. At the same time, having a really good sniper covering control points, is only going to make it easier for the run n' gunnners to do their job of capturing territory. So, I'd imagine there's times when it comes in handy and depending on the quality of sniper, times when it decidedly doesn't.

    That said, I snipe my way through S&D games and collect just as many objective based points as anyone else does, if not more.

    As long as I'm pontificating about sniping I just want to say this as well; if there's one thing I don't forgive in this game, it's losers rocking the m40 with an acog and steady aim. Every time I get shot or no-scoped by an acog sniper, I feel like ripping somebody's lungs out.

    Marty is usually avoidable. Juggernauts get got by powerful guns. Noob-tubers have one shot before their slow, stupid, noob asses get lit the up. But sometimes, there ain't you can do about some good as player using the m40 acog and its plus 5 damage bonus. It's a bull , cheap, lame-ass tactic and anybody who uses it should be shot in the face a la reality.

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    As long as I'm pontificating about sniping I just want to say this as well; if there's one thing I don't forgive in this game, it's losers rocking the m40 with an acog and steady aim. Every time I get shot or no-scoped by an acog sniper, I feel like ripping somebody's lungs out.

    Marty is usually avoidable. Juggernauts get got by powerful guns. Noob-tubers have one shot before their slow, stupid, noob asses get lit the up. But sometimes, there ain't you can do about some good as player using the m40 acog and its plus 5 damage bonus. It's a bull , cheap, lame-ass tactic and anybody who uses it should be shot in the face a la reality.
    I almost forgot what you were talking about until I played tonight. Holy. . Skilless assholes.

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    i do it without steady and and acog and its hilarious. if an m16 can kill in 1 shot this is my counter to those bas s who out the m16 m4, and p90

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    i only became a sniper to counter all the people who stay back and get them. i like to run and gun snipe not just stay in some tower in the back. maybe its just me but some people would rather get kills in the back than help out and capture points. if all you want is kills play TD. if not then be ready to play well as a team.
    i must add hardcore headquarters on shipment is amazing. the only problem is having 2 min respawns due to the friendly fire
    i don't snipe to counter snipers, i bust out the silenced weapons with the uav jammer, and wait for those bas to pop my teammates cause you can use their dead location to determine which way hes looking and the snipers depend alot on the /radar

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    i do it without steady and and acog and its hilarious. if an m16 can kill in 1 shot this is my counter to those bas s who out the m16 m4, and p90
    I hate all the p90 love i'll take the mp5 over that one any day

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    I dont care what anyone uses. If its allowed on the server, its fine with me. If it becomes a problem, I leave.

    Like the "Killhouse" or whatever...hate that, quit every time it comes up in rotation.

    I juuuuust rebought the game this past weekend. Still only have the early guns (M16/M4) with dot sights and a noobtube. Oh well, Im extremely accurate with the tube, even at distance. I hope I am toobing snipers, tbh.

    My favorite part of this game, and I kind of forgot about it, was sniping snipers with a G3. Damn that gun is accurate as . I need to make lvl24 to get it though.

    Havoc,

    Been playing on your suggested server. Im getting creamed because I dont know about the custom maps theyre using. Good time though, sucks I have to d/l a map every round change though.

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    Play headquarters, you will get better from that.

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    I hate all the p90 love i'll take the mp5 over that one any day
    I wish the clip of the mp5 held more bullets and I would use it more.

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    I'm glad that CoD4 isn't ridiculously sniper heavy. That's why I prefer it over the jumping snipers of Halo 3. Plus the hitbox detection always seems iffy on Halo 3. Rarely will I get killed in CoD4 and think it's total BS.

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    Oh yeah, and I'm usually rolling with the P90, Double Tap and Extreme Conditioning. It's just fun to pump out bullets that fast.

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    Oh yeah, and I'm usually rolling with the P90, Double Tap and Extreme Conditioning. It's just fun to pump out bullets that fast.
    and never have to reload. thats a d out gun. mp5 is second. only when its silenced. i go against the grain. everyone does m4 so i do g36. mp5,p90 so i do silenced uzi. the only thing i cant go against is the first sniper. barret is so horrible

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    My favorite part of this game, and I kind of forgot about it, was sniping snipers with a G3. Damn that gun is accurate as . I need to make lvl24 to get it though.
    The G3 has been my favorite weapon in just about any game I've seen it in. Dating all the way back to Jagged Alliance 2 and more recently in the RS:V les.

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    I'm glad that CoD4 isn't ridiculously sniper heavy. That's why I prefer it over the jumping snipers of Halo 3. Plus the hitbox detection always seems iffy on Halo 3. Rarely will I get killed in CoD4 and think it's total BS.
    Halo would be so much better with a kill cam

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    The G3 has been my favorite weapon in just about any game I've seen it in. Dating all the way back to Jagged Alliance 2 and more recently in the RS:V les.
    Bam. Im a G3 user myself. Accurate, range and damage.

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    I'm finally showing signs of progress.

    I can't wait till I get better and the old school mode is an option. I hate having ty guns and getting taken out by helicopters and stuff just because I suck. I like Old school because its more fair

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    Memorize the maps and watch how your team moves. I learned how to play in Team Deathmatch. Almost every pug team moves the same way, and moves to the same spots. It will help you plan your opening route.

    Once you have a decent idea on how players move through the maps, you will know what places are relatively safe. There are NO safe places. (except for maybe 1 that is really difficult for me to get to). If you are planning to snipe, you better be a damn good sniper. The maps aren't too sniper friendly and will definitely be difficult if you do not know the maps.

    Make sure you are observant of your UAV at all times. If an enemy fires w/o a silencer, they will show up in your UAV mini map. Then you will have a general idea where the enemy is so you can make it harder to sneak behind you. Another useful tip is to watch the kill cam after you have been killed (helps out a load more once you memorize the maps) it gives you a pretty good idea how you were killed and where from.

    Thats all I can think of atm.

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    old school is horrible. its only used to do Michael Meyers some mini game people created in the style of the character. anyways play TD to death and learn maps as the person above said. then go to objective based games where your upgraded guns should help. all you really need in this game is a silenced mp5 or a red dot m4 and you can have that fast. then learn to cook frags and and anticipate people on the uav and in no time you will start getting 3 people with 1 frag

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    I decided to bump this thread with more thoughts.


    One of the bad things about playing on the stock maps is that they are so incredibly overplayed, it makes it very difficult to "set up" anywhere, because most players know all the camping spots by heart.

    That said, I think there are some more guidelines to most FPSes that still apply here:

    1. DON'T SPRINT. Well, let me rephrase this... don't sprint as much. Especially on the larger maps, sprinting not only compromises your ability to return fire, it draws the attention of any person who's higher than you with a view of the surroundings. There is a tendency to want to rush back into battle, particularly if you want to kill the person who just pegged you. However, especially in fast-paced games like CoD4 (as opposed to more tactical/strategic shooters like GRAW), the battle zone can quickly change. Where you ran to last time may now be an enemy hotspot and sprinting will give 2 or 3 enemies an open bead on you. To this extent, consistently using your iron/red dot sights allows you to move much more authoritatively and move with more confidence. As long as you are sure you won't get caught from behind, this is a huge positive.

    2. On bigger, sniper prone maps like Bloc... be very cautious about movement in any case. Every time you move, you allow yourself to be spotted by snipers. Unless under good cover, very slow movements behind cover are extremely necessary.

    3. Get high! The higher you are the more of the map you can see. However, once you get to a higher spot, do NOT move unless you're aiming at someone. Even shifting your line of vision back and forth makes you "pop out" to anyone looking at the general area, and they can shoot you instantly. Staying completely still and waiting to see motion, with patience, will almost always net a couple of kills unless you're already exposed. Claymores are great for covering your backside in these situations, and silencers allow you to be even harder to spot.

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    double post.

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    Make it your Life and I bet you will turb good lol.

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    Sprinting also sucks because it takes a second or two to pull up your gun from a sprint. I am impatient and sprint alot, and I get caught alot.

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    PC is THE ONLY WAY to play an FPS.

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    PC is THE ONLY WAY to play an FPS.
    pretty much, but CoD/Halo 3 are remarkably great on 360. MW2 won't be any different. The main differences are level of compe ion (always much higher on PC), forming/joining teams, and competing in Leagues. The last two are what I love most about PC games. Pwning other people with your team in a 5v5 compe ively is like crack to me.

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    pretty much, but CoD/Halo 3 are remarkably great on 360. MW2 won't be any different. The main differences are level of compe ion (always much higher on PC), forming/joining teams, and competing in Leagues. The last two are what I love most about PC games. Pwning other people with your team in a 5v5 compe ively is like crack to me.
    This. It's something that console fanboys will never appreciate. FPS games are good on console -- but they are spectacular on PC. In fact, I would say there are more top notch FPS games out in the past two years than any other genre. It's pretty golden right now.

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    Gotta bump this thread. This occurred yesterday during primetime. Many good players on. The server wasn't full of CAL and pros, but not many slouches either. My team was getting hammered. I however, had a good start.



    Ended up going something like 68 and 18 for the map. After I died, I got spawned into some firefights and my K went down a bit because of it.

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