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    That is why we also teach History to our kids since it is amazing all the facts that kids simply don't learn anymore. Even in private schools.
    We sent my son to a school that teaches math and sciences almost exclusively. It wasn't that we wanted so much to keep him away from what they ( public schools ) WERE doing...but more keeping him away from what they WEREN'T doing.

    No one ever built anything of value with a liberal arts degree. Okay, that's a little strong, but....

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    I know there are people who do use it as a symbol of white pride. I disagree with using it that way, but any symbol can be used in ways others disagree with. Should the fact that some (maybe all) white supremacists use it as a symbol or white superiority, define it for everyone?

    Again, it's in people's own head when they conclude that.
    I understand your point of view and I agree that not everyone uses it as a symbol of white pride but I/we've come to the conclusion, again based on personal experience, that it truly does stand for racism for some and that again is a "conclusion" that is not simply in my head. But again I understand your point and I agree with it for the most part but I don't agree that it is "just in your head" most of the time.

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    What little I've seen of 'country' south, kinda freaked me out.
    Probably similar to my experiences in NE Portland.

    I've been seeing this black girl for a few weeks now. I'm not comfortable with the way some people look at us. I'm the only white guy in most of these places.

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    Would you agree there are those who want to take away the rights of those who want to flay the confederate flag?
    Would you agree that that is a straw man for the purposes of this thread?

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    I understand your point of view and I agree that not everyone uses it as a symbol of white pride but I/we've come to the conclusion, again based on personal experience, that it truly does stand for racism for some and that again is a "conclusion" that is not simply in my head. But again I understand your point and I agree with it for the most part but I don't agree that it is "just in your head" most of the time.
    So you are as prejudiced as the whites who take second glances and concerns about blacks, because of crime statistics.

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    We sent my son to a school that teaches math and sciences almost exclusively. It wasn't that we wanted so much to keep him away from what they WERE doing...but more keeping him away from what they WEREN'T doing.

    No one ever built anything of value with a liberal arts degree.
    I hear ya but I've known some who have built a great human being and career with a liberal arts degree.

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    Would you agree that that is a straw man for the purposes of this thread?
    Straw man or not, it is a valid question. I take it you are refusing to answer a simple question. You know I'm right. Would it kill you to agree?

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    So you are as prejudiced as the whites who take second glances and concerns about blacks, because of crime statistics.
    You got me there and I do admit that it is wrong for me to feel that way but my life experience has made me feel that way and it isn't always easy to forget. I'm guilty but not without reason. Not that it makes it any better.

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    Probably similar to my experiences in NE Portland.

    I've been seeing this black girl for a few weeks now. I'm not comfortable with the way some people look at us. I'm the only white guy in most of these places.
    Hangout someplace else.

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    You got me there and I do admit that it is wrong for me to feel that way but my life experience has made me feel that way and it isn't always easy to forget. I'm guilty but not without reason. Not that it makes it any better.
    Most prejudicies are not without reason. Human beings are flawed you know. Doesn't matter what their skin color is.

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    If'n you don't love America, why don't you jest GIT OUT?

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    Straw man or not, it is a valid question. I take it you are refusing to answer a simple question. You know I'm right. Would it kill you to agree?
    I already said putting a piece of cloth on a stick does not make one a patriot.

    So you are wrong and I do not agree with you.

    Neither person in your example can be declared a patriot given your meager facts.

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    Most prejudicies are not without reason. Human beings are flawed you know. Doesn't matter what their skin color is.
    I concur and that is why racism will always exist.

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    and one joe chalupa...

    all one can do is the best they can in their own heart...

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    and one joe chalupa...

    all one can do is the best they can in their own heart...

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    the confederate flag?
    live in the now

    only the biggest taints in america sport that , even in victoria its universally scoffed

    said it before, TEXAS is not the south, its texas, nobody flys the french or spanish flag

    people from the south are lame as , they care more about the "south" than the state they live in, virginas the south= mayland and tennesse and we all know nobody gives a about those holes


    and even if you were win the argument about history states rights (which we're all for), it makes a bold cultural statement that you are an ingorant racist piece of from a state where they cant BBQ

    the only bigger joke is the argentina flag, go back to esmegma blanca and georgia

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    What percentage of people sporting CF's on their trucks do you suppose DON'T get annoyed when they hear people speaking Spanish? 7%? 8%?

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    What percentage of people sporting CF's on their trucks do you suppose DON'T get annoyed when they hear people speaking Spanish? 7%? 8%?
    They will be very happy to respect Texas' right as a state to make Spanish the official language in a few years.

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    the confederate flag?
    live in the now

    only the biggest taints in america sport that , even in victoria its universally scoffed

    said it before, TEXAS is not the south, its texas, nobody flys the french or spanish flag

    people from the south are lame as , they care more about the "south" than the state they live in, virginas the south= mayland and tennesse and we all know nobody gives a about those holes


    and even if you were win the argument about history states rights (which we're all for), it makes a bold cultural statement that you are an ingorant racist piece of from a state where they cant BBQ

    the only bigger joke is the argentina flag, go back to esmegma blanca and georgia
    Texas is one of the handful of states that its iden y is nearly as strong as it's national iden y. Texas, California, and New York are states that are all their own in many ways. Texas, is unique followed by Cali. NY represents the east...NYC is a world class city.

    addendum: this is what makes Texas unique. It's almost all privately owned. No guvment land, or little, in Texas. That's where the individualism and 'land owner' rights comes from and that is at the core of the differences between capitalsim and sociolism. The means of production. Land. You think the state of Texas owns the water you drink ? Think again my friend. They BUY it and sell it to you through SAWS and BEXARMET. Check out the people that sell water to BEXARMET. It's just a handful of people...

    Oil...pffft...

    WATER is the new oil.
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    They will be very happy to respect Texas' right as a state to make Spanish the official language in a few years.

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    TEXAS is not the south, its texas
    Amen.

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    See what you started

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    They will be very happy to respect Texas' right as a state to make Spanish the official language in a few years.
    San Antonio is not Texas. Texas is not America. Get out of yourself for a moment, even if you have to imagine it. People tend to hang out with people like them, so they think most people are like them. *buzzer*.

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    San Antonio is not Texas. Texas is not America. Get out of yourself for a moment, even if you have to imagine it. People tend to hang out with people like them, so they think most people are like them. *buzzer*.
    So you're saying all the whites will move out of Texas at that point so they can hang out together?

    That sarcasm FAQ link is around here somewhere....

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    So you're saying all the whites will move out of Texas at that point so they can hang out together?

    That sarcasm FAQ link is around here somewhere....
    So you're saying that historical truth is the same as the cultural truth that is portrayed by modern art and pop culture ?

    ( could I hit any more buzzwords if I TRIED...)

    Listen up chumpdumper, you've appropriately named yourself, which is no doubt the only right thing you've ever done.

    Just leave it at that.

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