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    Which liberal radio did you listen to today?
    I knew I shouldn't have used the word radio

    So I lied and didn't listen to liberal radio... I just read all the comments on the various articles on CNN, and read a few blogs about it...

    Statement stays the same, seems most of the people that side with Gates think that the police are bad.

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    Tell us all exactly how just leaving was not an option, Esfailas.
    tell us exactly why you can't read and comprehend a police report? please directly all of your idiotic questions to the police report. i'm tired of spoonfeeding you and making you look even more fail like.

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    I knew I shouldn't have used the word radio

    So I lied and didn't listen to liberal radio... I just read all the comments on the various articles on CNN, and read a few blogs about it...

    Statement stays the same, seems most of the people that side with Gates think that the police are bad.
    I don't agree with what Gates thinks.

    Not all police are bad.

    It was a stupid arrest.

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    I know what it is, do you?

    Do you have examples of self-described conservatives whining about the fascist state?


    Fascist is usually the cry of liberals ing about things like The Patriot Act, e.g. see Countdown with Keith Olbermann

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    Leaving was an option. So was arresting Gates.
    that was for me. faildump can't read or comprehend.

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    Obvious as to what, please?
    What is your opinion?
    That if you behave like a jackass to cops, they will arrest you.

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    The question was for Esfailas.

    See how I can respond anyway?

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    tell us exactly why you can't read and comprehend a police report? please directly all of your idiotic questions to the police report. i'm tired of spoonfeeding you and making you look even more fail like.
    No, I'm asking YOU why YOU think just leaving was not an option.

    BtB has already provided examples of police just leaving in a similar situation.

    Tell us all why it was decidedly not an option in this case.

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    See how I can respond anyway?
    So you understand it was an option.

    Esfailas insists it was not.

    I am asking for an explanation why it was not an option in this case.

    See how I am asking him?

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    I don't agree with what Gates thinks.

    Not all police are bad.

    It was a stupid arrest.
    Do you agree that it was a legal arrest though?

    The situation should never have happened. Gates overreacted, and then made the stupid mistake of going outside... Common sense, don't go outside with cops. Don't let them inside. Have them stand on your porch, you stand inside your door, with the door open. If they have to come in, let them, but don't follow them outside and yell at them.

    If it really was because Gates was black, he could have just gotten the guys name, called the Chief of Police and handled it in a reasonable manner.

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    That if you behave like a jackass to cops, they will arrest you.

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    That if you behave like a jackass to cops, they will arrest you.

    I agree. At least, that has been my own personal experience.


    But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this officer, who was hand-picked by a black officer to teach a race profiling class (as in, how NOT to), suddenly turned into a raging hate monger and thought the perfect night cap for a good days' work was to arrest himself a negra.

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    Do you have examples of self-described conservatives whining about the fascist state?


    Fascist is usually the cry of liberals ing about things like The Patriot Act, e.g. see Countdown with Keith Olbermann
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108089
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...7&postcount=20

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    Do you agree that it was a legal arrest though?
    It was a stupid legal arrest. The ability to make an arrest is not the obligation to make an arrest.

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    I agree. At least, that has been my own personal experience.


    But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this officer, who was hand-picked by a black officer to teach a race profiling class (as in, how NOT to), suddenly turned into a raging hate monger and thought the perfect night cap for a good days' work was to arrest himself a negra.
    He didn't have to be racist to make a stupid arrest.

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    No, I'm asking YOU why YOU think just leaving was not an option.

    BtB has already provided examples of police just leaving in a similar situation.

    Tell us all why it was decidedly not an option in this case.
    he was leaving and in fact he left his house
    http://www.samefacts.com/archives/Po...s%20arrest.PDF

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    The police were not wrong in this case. Gates was hostile from the get-go. Officer Crowley asked him to step outside because he didn't know if there was someone else in the house who posed a danger to him. For instance, what if someone had broken in and was standing around the corner with a gun on Gates - and Officer Crowley walks right into a dangerous situation.

    Another fact here - the house DID NOT belong to Gates. The house is owned by Harvard and Gates was just the tenant. Gates has an enormous ego and I think he was furious that the white cop didn't recognize him (after all he's a friend of Obama and has been on Oprah) and "dared" to ask him for ID.

    Gates started screaming the cop was racist as soon as he opened the door. He was the one who kept screaming at the cops and all the neighbors gathered around that "this is what happens if you're a black man in America".

    The whole situation could have been resolved if the Professor had just showed his ID, explained what had happened and thanked Officer Crowley for making sure there WASN'T a burglary in progress - after all, that residence had been broken into before.

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    Fascist is usually the cry of liberals ing about things like The Patriot Act,
    you

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    I agree. At least, that has been my own personal experience.


    But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this officer, who was hand-picked by a black officer to teach a race profiling class (as in, how NOT to), suddenly turned into a raging hate monger and thought the perfect night cap for a good days' work was to arrest himself a negra.
    Ah, but who better to racially profile and get away with it than an expert in racial profiling?

    D'uh.

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    So you understand it was an option.

    Esfailas insists it was not.

    I am asking for an explanation why it was not an option in this case.

    See how I am asking him?


    Maybe both of these guys just got into a battle of ego's?

    Gates was probably being a prick and the officer just trumped him by being a himself.

    Still don't think it was racial -- probably more of a power trip, by both parties involved. Both thought they were being disrespected by the other.

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    The police were not wrong in this case. Gates was hostile from the get-go. Officer Crowley asked him to step outside because he didn't know if there was someone else in the house who posed a danger to him. For instance, what if someone had broken in and was standing around the corner with a gun on Gates - and Officer Crowley walks right into a dangerous situation.

    Another fact here - the house DID NOT belong to Gates. The house is owned by Harvard and Gates was just the tenant. Gates has an enormous ego and I think he was furious that the white cop didn't recognize him (after all he's a friend of Obama and has been on Oprah) and "dared" to ask him for ID.

    Gates started screaming the cop was racist as soon as he opened the door. He was the one who kept screaming at the cops and all the neighbors gathered around that "this is what happens if you're a black man in America".

    The whole situation could have been resolved if the Professor had just showed his ID, explained what had happened and thanked Officer Crowley for making sure there WASN'T a burglary in progress - after all, that residence had been broken into before.
    Someone jump in if I'm wrong but he's not required by law to step outside.

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    Wow-just Wow. That thread is revealing. To be honest, I thought people were crazy when they would talk about redistribution of wealth and that Obama is a socialist. But daaaammmnnn, they were right, much to my chagrine.

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    and how is this going to affect police officers of america. both how they approach every call, handle them, and how the public's at ude towards them.

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    Someone jump in if I'm wrong but he's not required by law to step outside.
    the jackass professor followed him outside.

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