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  1. #101
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    Nash deal shouldn't be criticized


    With Steve Nash and Grant Hill, there could be no better duo to mentor and shape a new era of Suns basketball.

    by Dan Bickley - Jul. 28, 2009 07:48 PM
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    Go ahead. Tear down Steve Nash. Pick apart his defense. Question his value. Show your ignorance to the rest of the basketball world.

    Three years ago, Nash became the only two-time NBA MVP in the history of the Suns. Considering his stature and physical limitations, it was one of the more-remarkable feats in league history. Everyone in Arizona loved him back then.

    Now, many fans seem to think he's overpaid, overrated and a bad investment for a team with zero chance to win a championship in the near future. Some even call him a liability.

    These are the same people who drove Mike D'Antoni to the brink of insanity.
    "I feel as fit and as athletic as I've ever been," Nash said.

    When Nash agreed to a two-year extension with the Suns, the skepticism began anew. Nash was giving up his last chance to chase that elusive NBA championship. He was returning to a team where cost control trumps all, a diminished outfit now parked outside the circle of contenders.

    Nash cited a love of community and organization, and surely, many die-hards and blue-hairs want to give the point guard a big hug. But others questioned his compe ive zeal, as if this were proof of some flaw in his athletic genetic code.

    Randy Johnson heard the same things when he signed with the Diamondbacks in 1999, and in 2001, he was holding up a championship trophy.

    Granted, there will be no such ending for Nash. Unless he is traded, he will join the fraternity of impact players who never won a le, a list that includes Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, John Stockton and Patrick Ewing. That notoriety will follow him for the rest of his life, and on some level, it has to sting.

    "You know what? I enjoy life too much to look back a lot," Nash said of the past five years. "I have too much to look forward to each day, too much left to accomplish and work for. Yeah, it's a shame and it hurts, if I take a minute to stop and think about it. But I don't really have any regrets, and I look forward to continuing to improve and being part of a great environment and a great team."

    That isn't exactly true. Occasionally, Nash can get bitter, just like the rest of us: "No one gave us Pau Gasol for nothing," he said.

    Nash isn't a charity worker, either, and maybe money has a lot to do with this. Maybe Nash wasn't going to command a $22 million extension anywhere else, and maybe his future options were limited. But in the end, he didn't have to commit to a rebuilding project in Phoenix. Same goes for Grant Hill, who brushed off an insulting initial offer from the team and signed on anyway.

    For a franchise that already is on tenuous ground, the net effect is enormous.

    Bash Nash, if you must. Like everyone else, he gets burned by the best point guards in the league. But he takes more charges than anyone in the building. His dedication to training and team-building are unquestioned, maybe unparalleled. Meanwhile, his performance clearly was hampered last season by the demands of Shaquille O'Neal, and the awkward attempts to implement a new system.

    But just like Kurt Warner, Nash can work magic in the right system, with the right group of guys. And in one of their darker hours, the Suns now are in the hands of two great sportsmen, two men who sated their egos a long time ago.

    With Nash and Hill, there could be no better duo to mentor and shape a new era of Suns basketball. For that, Valley fans should feel lucky. It could be a lot worse.


    The Arizona Republic's sports writers are a joke, Bickley in particular

  2. #102
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    The Arizona Republic's sports writers are a joke, Bickley in particular
    Not true, DUNCAN, sure they're bagmen for the Suns, but, they don't speak in tongues and they talk about bread & butter issues. I love reading it. Even the girl (Boivin) is down to earth and easily understood.

    The writers get deep access so they know whence they write. Rarely are they wrong. And we know why: they're bagmen for the Suns and while the Suns don't write the actual story, they give a rough outline for dissemination to local Media. Probably outside NYC every city does similiar shenanigans.

    I'm just grateful to read Suns stuff. Ya can't beat it especially when the bas s are non le contenders and I can relax whilst reading.

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    Their facts are never wrong Cubby, their homeristic opinions are just horrible.

    You know if Nash got traded, Bickley would have written a piece about how bad Nash's defense is, how his MVP's don't matter anymore, and how he needed to go. Not saying I wouldn't agree with it, my point is he writes whatever Sarver wants him to.

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    The Arizona Republic's sports writers are a joke, Bickley in particular
    No one on this planet has devoted more time and effort to blasting Robert Sarver's frugalness and poor decision making than Dan Bickley.

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    No one on this planet has devoted more time and effort to blasting Robert Sarver's frugalness and poor decision making than Dan Bickley.
    You kinda gave this guy a rough time too, da:::

    "Dear Steve Kerr,

    Blow me.

    Love,

    da_suns_fan"

    I got mixed up in my place twixt the two Boards and "copy" ed it over there, but, alas could not paste it. LOL!

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    No one on this planet has devoted more time and effort to blasting Robert Sarver's frugalness and poor decision making than Dan Bickley.

    I don't really remember any articles where he's questioned the Suns decision making. I hate his "It could be worse" at ude more than anything.

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    I hate his "It could be worse" at ude more than anything.
    lol!!!!!! It fools 2 out of every 3 people. Can't beat that average.

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    The Suns have kept their window open for a few more years with this news.
    A crowbar couldn't get that window open. Poor Suns...

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    If you have a beaten up piece of as a car that worked great 3 years ago but it's ready to fall apart now, do you say, "It could be worse, I could have no car, I owe it to this car because it worked so well 3 years ago," and then proceed to dump a whole bunch of money into that beaten up piece of just so it can perform for another three years at a mediocre level and then break down, or do you get value for the car while you can and then start saving money for a new car which will provide a long term solution to your problem?

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    A crowbar couldn't get that window open. Poor Suns...
    There was never any [open window]. They never got into an elimination event in the conference finals. They got two victories in, no more. They beat a Smushed LA team that Kobe quit on & they let Horry & the Spurs pull their pants down.

    SSOL is a crutch for teams that won't put it ALL out there and take the result, unconditionally. With SSOL you can always fall back on the entertainment & curious angles and avoid condemnation with the assured ultimate failure.

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    So Suns are commited to non contending...

    Nice really; I want Dragic to get as much playing time as possible and then get out of that hole.

    Nash went from one of my favourite players to one of the ones I simply hate. What a looser.

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    There was never any [open window]. They never got into an elimination event in the conference finals.

    Cubby, c'mon, the window is clearly shut now and has clearly been shut since 2007, but it was open at some point. If Amare is healthy in 2006 and KT + Bell never get injured, they probably win it all. In 2005 Dallas had no answers to the Amare Nash pick and roll and didn't add anyone who would be able to limit it the following off season. Phoenix forced game 6 and blew a huge lead in that game because the team simply ran out of gas after playing 2 straight 7 game series with down to the wire overtime games in each series. If Amare and KT are healthy, they beat the Lakers in 5 games and the Clippers in 5-6 games. It's remarkable they even made it that far with a guy they signed in 50+ games into that season as the starting power forward.

    But whether or not the window was open then, it is shut now, and for all intensive purposes, SSOL was a failed experiment. The belief was your team needed to be great defensively and have a great half court inside out offense before the Suns SSOL era began, and that era has done nothing to debunk that belief.

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    You kinda gave this guy a rough time too, da:::

    "Dear Steve Kerr,

    Blow me.

    Love,

    da_suns_fan"

    I got mixed up in my place twixt the two Boards and "copy" ed it over there, but, alas could not paste it. LOL!
    Cubby, are you lurking around phxsuns.net?

    Wait a second...do you have an account there? Its extremely exclusive (you cant just register) so I assume you do not.

    Do you post there under another moniker?

    btw - I told Steve Kerr to blow me over the stupid spin he spewed out in that "letter to Suns fans". Thats nothing compared to what Id like to say to Robert Sarver.

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    Cubby, are you lurking around phxsuns.net?

    Wait a second...do you have an account there? Its extremely exclusive (you cant just register) so I assume you do not.

    Do you post there under another moniker?

    btw - I told Steve Kerr to blow me over the stupid spin he spewed out in that "letter to Suns fans". Thats nothing compared to what Id like to say to Robert Sarver.


    It's funny you actually sent that to Kerr. Once Sarver sent out a letter to anyone that has bought tickets through the team or through the ticket exchange inviting them to a party about the advantages of being a season ticket holder.

    I sent a letter back inviting Sarver to a party (that didn't exist) about the advantages of keeping 1st round picks.

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    Cubby, are you lurking around phxsuns.net?

    Wait a second...do you have an account there? Its extremely exclusive (you cant just register) so I assume you do not.

    Do you post there under another moniker?

    btw - I told Steve Kerr to blow me over the stupid spin he spewed out in that "letter to Suns fans". Thats nothing compared to what Id like to say to Robert Sarver.
    Yes, I read it religiously. But I can't get in. Haven't been able to in many years. You could talk to them, da, & get me back in. Tell them I'd turn over a new leaf, that I would'nt O & 41 'em and that I'd post no pictures of naughtiness, male or female. Tell 'em old Cubby wants to bury the old proverbial with 'em. What say, old horse?

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