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why would you say infiniti ward, they have talent and only bring their games out once every two years
treyarch and infinity ward ... stop worrying about whose pockets you're filling and just play the damn game.
why would you say infiniti ward, they have talent and only bring their games out once every two years
IW only has 3 games out, and they are only cod games ... I'm pretty sure someone like Balli who apparently worships them, is the worst type of fanboy you can get. They have no diversity, just one series they've cashed in on. They couldn't even get 5 new maps out for their best selling/most popular entry, and one of the all-time most popular games ever. What the is so great about them that you can't love a clone of everything great about their game redone in a different era of war from another developer?
Last edited by z0sa; 07-29-2009 at 01:29 PM.
the problem isn't that its a clone the problem is that its a crappy clone
and, the final thing I have to say: nazi zombies is worth playing waw over 4. With Nazi Zombies, you can mix it up to play waw online all day and never get bored.
I wish they wuold have added destrctible environments. Looks good graphically... probably 15 or 20% better.
I might pick it up in the Spring for the SP campaign... I'm not a fan of the MP that much.
find a better server that doesn't have tanks genius
play HC on WaW on a server with no tanks, and it's a beautiful thing. WaW better all day long...period.
On a related note, which servers do you guys play WaW on? I'm in Cali so I'm usually on -X- clan servers playing CTF or WAR mode, both are HC with no tanks or noob tubes. Would love to frag(or team up with) some fellow Spurstalk posters.
BTW I play on PC!!!!!!
Last edited by symple19; 07-30-2009 at 08:22 AM.
lol waw
lol still playing a 2 year old game with no DLC when there's another game in the series with tons of DLC and new everything
lol 2 year old game with no DLC still more popular than another game in the series with tons of DLC and new everything
lol waw
yeah and waw has those elevation glithces. on hardcore some become unstoppable because no killcam. the one in outskirts is so easy to do
it knocked it off for a week totaled up. Over the past 6 months, waw has been far more popular.
I just am tired of WWII shooters. For that reason, I like CoD4 better.
On Xbox live, you mean.
lol console fps
whoever plays an fps game on console doesn't know about how to properly play an fps. Period.
okay. So anybody whose ever played on console, even the ones who know PC is better, don't know about how to properly play an FPS.
Sounds like you just can't kill anybody with sticks as opposed to a mouse.
No. I just am relatively certain that a very good team of 3 players with M+K could take out a team of 10 "elite" console players. There is just no comparing the accuracy between the two. If I played with a mouse on Xbox live, I'm certain that aside from the smaller maps where it's insane chaos, I could maintain a 6 or 7 to 1 K : D ratio, minimum. I have watched my half-brother play, and while he is very good in his own right and regularly goes 3:1 - 4:1 in online matches, watching him play on 360 is very similar to watching someone run in molasses. Everything on 360 is slower. Aiming, moving, reactions, timing, precision nade placement. I'm not saying it's necessarily a reflection on anyone's gaming ability, however I would annihilate him if we were playing console vs. PC. There is a quality to CoD4 on PC which makes it soooo much more visceral, blindingly fast, and absolutely superb. When I can pull someone up in my G3 sights from all the way across the map, and within a 1/10th of a second have my irons directly on them... it just doesn't get any better than that.
The analogy you're making here is kind of like ridiculing someone for not being able to race a Ford Pinto around a track very well because they are used to driving Ferraris and race prepped Le Mans cars.Sounds like you just can't kill anybody with sticks as opposed to a mouse.
Last edited by Cry Havoc; 08-01-2009 at 12:03 AM.
wow, talk about blowing mouse and keyboard out of proportion. it's definitely superior, but I own just fine with both. I'm assuming neither of you feel that's possible, but it is.The analogy you're making here is kind of like ridiculing someone for not being able to race a Ford Pinto around a track very well because they are used to driving Ferraris and race prepped Le Mans cars.
Oh, you can absolutely be good with both. There's no doubt in my mind about that.
But if you went to an elite server on PC with a 360 gamepad and tried to play, you'd be lucky to even approach a 1:2 KD ratio. And that's if it was a map favorable to melee combat.
And no, the difference is that massive. It's not even comparable.
I much pretty much disagree with everything you said, Havoc. Running in molasses? its the same speeds, same guns, same everything. Only real differences are your machine and the controller if you're talking purely gameplay.
The pinto/ferrari analogy is extremely far off.
all opinion, though you state it as fact. Disagree 100%. I've detailed why PC FPS makes for a much richer experience - but the hunks of plastic in your hands are only a small part of that.
Not only that, I'd be willing to bet on a favorable kill death if I could use a controller vs m+kb, if it truly was an 'elite' server. When one can rely on his teammates heavily, the kills just rack up; its more about outaiming your enemy than outsmarting them, because they will be occupied with others. When a couple friends and I play waw (on 360 obviously) me and the best one routinely get 30+ kills without any tanks. We literally score entire matches worth at times. I daresay that would translate.
Last edited by z0sa; 08-01-2009 at 12:15 AM.
Obviously it's the same game.
But the speed at which corners can be turned, the aiming strategy involved in making transitions between sprint > strafe > jump + swivel around a corner > duck > aim at specific locations where campers might be is all much more clunky. The amount of simultaneous keys that can be entered with precision is an advantage that is impossible to compensate with. The simple ability with a mouse to look from place to place to place with faultless precision is something you are never going to be able to argue in favor of the 360.
Put it to you this way: A standard mouse has a DPI in the range of 400. That alone is far more detail than can EVER be resolved from a joystick's limited range of motion.
Bump it up to a gaming mouse like the DeathAdder (2000 dpi), and you're talking precision that's so far ahead of a joystick, it's not even worth debating any longer. I think you're wrong, you don't, and that's that.
Semantics. If you can't use the corded mouse that came with your PC to own people, you suck. End of story. Spending $250 on an incredible mouse and keyboard does the same for your gaming skills as a $2500 Gibson ES-335 does for your guitar playing.
And I've gone over the problems with the controller, and recently. i know you read them. The mouse and keyboard is superior, but the difference isn't such that you shouldn't even play the game if its on console. I can vouch for it.
Right, but in good hands a fantastically made guitar can really sound amazing. Same with a mouse. When my G5 broke I had to wait to get a new gaming mouse shipped, and for a while used an old IBM optical 3 button mouse. I still did fine, though there were moments when I would have perhaps had a couple more kills with a better mouse. If nothing else, the movement and tracking is smoother.
No no, I agree with you on the last part. The game is obviously still enjoyable on a console. If it wasn't, there would be a lot of unhappy gamers out there.And I've gone over the problems with the controller, and recently. i know you read them. The mouse and keyboard is superior, but the difference isn't such that you shouldn't even play the game if its on console. I can vouch for it.
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