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Provide 1 example pls.
Parker can get into the lane at will. But if we were ever to trade one of the big 3 it would have to be parker. He is an awesome scoring machine for his size. He shoots high percentage from the field for being so small. However He is limited in how he affects the game entirely. Duncan/Ginobili 1- can make a gave saving block. 2 - grab a gamesaving rebound 3 - make a gamesaving defensive play. Parker can do all the things that show up in a boxscore, but its the little things that win you ball games. Pop would never go into a clutch situation without having Ginobili/Duncan on the floor. However even last year I still seen Popovich go without parker in a clutch situation. That speaks Volumes. If parker has a bad shooting game, then he is all screwed up. If Duncan/Ginobili have a bad shootin game then they start to do other things.
Provide 1 example pls.
Its not the injury, If that were the case I wouldve said trade Manu immediately. Its how the spurs offense Runs with him. Everybody is all happy about having Ginobili Healthy and Now having a Big 4 in Richard Jefferson. What Spurs fans dont understand is that to have all these guys reach their potential within the team setting, their must be a point guard who sets them up in areas where they thrive. Jefferson is known for finishing in transition. Thats cause Jason Kidd would get the ball, Run and look for him. Do honestly think that Parker is gonna look for him in transition and throw lobs to him in the half-court like Kidd?
Are you really serious? You don't think he's a top 3 point guard? You tell me what 3 PGs are honestly better..You are the only person I've ever seen..and that includes Spurs haters, that say he's not Top 3. The guy is the only healthy player on our team right now (and yes, with a sprained ankle, he's still not injured) that can create his own shot..but yeah...let's dump his ass. We've got all these people doing this right now
And all over a minor injury..he's fine. He's still top 3..top 2 in my opinion.
1 - CP3
2 - Billups
3 - Deron Williams
I believe it was the Hawks last season and before that is was the grizzlies. 2 examples for ya'
On another TP NOTE...I will be dealing at TP and Eva's Celibrity Poker tourney in Sept.
Parker will LOVE throwing the ball to RJ and running with him. He just has never had anyone to lob to on the Spurs
Well all questions will be answered after about 3months of them playing together, so lets see then.Parker will LOVE throwing the ball to RJ and running with him. He just has never had anyone to lob to on the Spurs
As we all know, you are dying for it be a failure so you can prove Parker sucksWell all questions will be answered after about 3months of them playing together, so lets see then.
I don't think we should trade Parker now because he is, indeed, overall our best player right now.
But he's 27 and will turn 28 this season, which means he'll be a FA at 29 years old. I'm not terribly excited about giving a 29 year old PG whose game is predicated on speed a Max deal. Not too many PGs can blow by people once they get on the other side of 30, and when Tony loses that ability I don't see his value being anywhere near as high.
Nope I just hope we win another Championship or 2 before Duncan retires. Parker doesnt suck, For the record I NEVER said he did. I just question him being a true point guard. I'll love it if he starts throwing lobs and junk.As we all know, you are dying for it be a failure so you can prove Parker sucks
Way to pull out the one bad game Parker had against Atlanta,about a week after he returned from his injury, and use it a stick to beat him. The Grizzlies game you think you remember is wrong, he didn't play the first two games against them because he was injured and then played pretty well the next two, much later in the season.
You totally made you point.
Very fair assesment. Thankfully he has gotten a better jumpshot and he has richard Jefferson if he uses him to make things easier for himself. But like you said the other attributes of your game have to be strong. ( Jason Kidd is old an all. but he can still get you 10ast/10rbds/10pts any given night.)
grizzlies 2006 not 2009 FYI - Manu had come back from and injury in that Grizzlies game and he made the game winning ALLEY_OOP to tim duncan while Parker was on the bench.
too right. look for tp and rj to connect on many a fast break next season.Parker will LOVE throwing the ball to RJ and running with him. He just has never had anyone to lob to on the Spurs
parker and manu have had amazing plays on the break for years too - i think my favorite would be that one play that included a pass through derek fisher's legs.. and then maybe a behind the back pass or two..
and even hill got in on the action running the floor with tony last year. those two should click even more this year. it almost looked akward seeing someone out there (in a spurs jersey) at that breakneck pace running with tony, but they made great, cohesive plays together on several occasions.
if parker can run the break on his own and finish that's great, but he also won't hesitate to make a great play to a teammate on the break either. tony knows those little flip passes in transition make the espn top 10!
i just don't get the pure PG fascination. he averaged 7 apg. he's what? less than 2 apg away from these ultimate true PG's that play this superior team game while scoring 5-10 less ppg?
http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblog...bleu-park.html
Sacre bleu! Parker puzzled about Spurs insistence on more tests
By Mike Monroe on Jul 31, 09 04:37 PM | Permalink | Comments (1) Save & Share Yahoo! BuzzYahoo! Newsvine del.icio.us Facebook Google Reddit Fark
Spurs guard Tony Parker returned to San Antonio from Paris Friday evening, wondering why the club insisted he get more tests on a right ankle he sprained a week ago in a game against Austria.
Parker has been training with and competing for "Les Bleus," the French national team, as it prepares for a three-team tournament that will determine the final qualifier for the European championships, scheduled for Poland in September.
He collided with an Austrian player in a game in Strasbourg, France, on July 23, leaving the court on crutches after injuring both his right thigh and ankle. An MRI exam showed no ligament damage in the ankle, but, a week later, the Spurs requested Parker's return so they could perform their own tests.
Spurs general manager R.C. Buford, responding by text message, said the Spurs were "being cautious" with the three-time NBA All-Star, who led the team in scoring in both the regular season (22.0 points per game) and playoffs (28.6).
Parker, however, questioned the need for the trip back to San Antonio. Noting that the Spurs had a member of their training staff in France last week to check on his status, he said he regretted the team's decision.
"Honestly, I don't understand this decision, because of all the tests done with the French doctors and the Spurs," he said. "I regret what is going (on). I am obligated to follow what my (NBA) club wanted me to do, but I hope to come back as soon as possible to participate in the qualification with the French national team."
France is to play Italy in a tournament game in Italy on Wednesday.
Anyone wondering why the Spurs would insist on erring on the side of caution with Parker need only check the team's player payroll for next season. They are obligated to pay Parker $12.6 million, whether healthy or injured.
Let's see... have the Spurs ever held a player out a little longer than they had to? Have they ever worked a player back into the lineup more slowly than they had to? If you need an answer to that, you aren't a Spurs fan.
It doesn't matter if some doctor would allow them to play. It doesn't matter if the player thinks he is ready to get back into the rotation. The Spurs aren't known for rushing players back onto the floor after an injury. Or when they are not in game shape, for that matter - remember Horry a couple of seasons ago?
So why does this have to be about the French NT, or about French sports medicine? They would be treating this the same way if Tony was playing for the Spurs right now, and it was the middle of the regular season. They err on the side of caution.
So maybe the message from Holt is this:
You're injured. Stop playing and rest.
I'm totally on the Spurs' side of this "argument."
Bad ankles have cost us at least one championship in the past two years, if not two championships, so if Parker has a problem with the Spurs' owner or FO being cautious, then don't freaking go to France and get injured.
I'm ecstatic that Holt took it upon himself to bring Parker back here. What if we heard that Manu was full-on practicing with the NT in Argentina right now? He would get the same text, believe me. And he should. What if we heard that Tim entered a tire-throwing contest in Montana next week to be televised on ESPN6. Tim would get the same text. And he should.
The truth is, Parker should say nothing and like it. If he plays without getting hurt, fine, no worries. But when you get hurt, the "diagnosis" comes from a doctor who is "practicing" medicine. There are no assurances when it comes to health or diagnoses of injuries. So Holt has every right to protect his assets, and Parker is obviously a major asset of this team.
If the article is correct, Tony Parker is pissed at Peter Holt and plans to come back here and have it out with him. If I were Holt, I would have Tim Duncan sitting at the conference table when that conversation takes place. Tim carried Parker to three championships, and then re-signed for less money so that the team could afford to hire other good players. Now Tim is nearing the end of his career, and this season looks like it could be one of his last chances to win another ring. I'd like to see if Tony could look Tim Duncan in the eyes and justify his position on this.
I'm sure Tim understands and respects Tony's desire to play for his national team. But I wonder what the rest of you think? If Tim had made the phone call to Tony, would he have told him to stay there and play, or get his ass on the airplane?
A lot of noise for nothing, in regular season tony would have played
When is the break between the European games and the start of the season? I think Parker should be fine as long as he gets at least a month period in between.
I hope so. But I think Duncan won't do that.
Obviously the thread starter has too much hatred to TP he has to start multiple threads to prove his point.
Obviously the thread starter has too much hatred to TP he has to start multiple threads to prove his point.
Absolutely wrong. I'm a huge Tony Parker fan. I think he's very underrated, and I hope he stays with the Spurs, and gives it his best effort for years to come. Some of the FIBA fans who post here, I'm not to fond of.
The other thread about the trade was serious. Bruno and others have suggested that he is very unhappy, and it is going to cause trouble. There's nothing worse than a player who is unahappy with the team. The point of that thread was that the sky won't fall if Tony wants out over the situation with the French NT. And if he has any idea of holding Holt hostage, I think he's sadly mistaken.
And the point of this thread is that Tony isn't the only person who is invested in this season, and the others deserve consideration too. Bruno obviously thinks that Holt is an asshole, and a lot of American fans are assholes. I wonder if he would think Tim was an asshole for wanting to be sure everyone is healthy this season?
After all Tim Duncan has done here, how do you look him in the eyes and say, "Tough , Tim. I'm rolling the dice"? I guess I'm really curious about whether or not Parker is capable of doing that.
I think this was deliberate so as not to jeopardize Tony's relationship with Pop primaily.
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