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Whose a better defender at this point Derek Fisher or Steve Nash, personally I'll take the Fishmen.
Tell the Spurs that. When are people gonna learn that the little guy can put the ball in the basket?
Whose a better defender at this point Derek Fisher or Steve Nash, personally I'll take the Fishmen.
Who's a better player at this point? Derek Fisher or Steve Nash? Personally, I'll take the Canadian.
I'd take Fisher. There's no way Billups has that sub par series with Nash guarding him.
better player = Nash
better defender = Fisher
Anybody post or read the boards at Dallasbasketball.com?
DOK: Steve Nash as TMOGE: Dirk Nowitzki
The difference is Dirk never campaigned to get teammates traded and even with his athletic limitations is a decent defender.
DoK is a got.
No offense or anything, it just seems like something personal with you when it comes to Nash.
2 time MVP
Nash is the only guy you dog constantly.
That's more of a dig at Amare than it is Nash. Amare should take it upon himself to get better.
Dirk got 28 on 10-12 shooting that day. The Mavs shot 60% from the floor that game, so why single out only Nash's performance?
The Mavs cater to their franchise player just as much as the Suns do with theirs. Why do you think Avery is no longer our coach and Devin is in New Jersey?
Nash gets more criticism regarding his defense than any other star player in the NBA. He isn't a good defender but the haters only focus on him. News flash, there's alot of star players who don't play good defense.
And most of them were not handed 2 MVPs, and therefore deserve less criticism for over hyping someone.
Show me another MVP with as crappy of a defense as Steve Nash and I'll show you an over hyped player.
Man, I might've been considered a Nash-hater until DoK came along.
The only thing I had problems with were his ridiculous back-2-back MVPs.
Nash deserved those MVP's. I don't like how people think an MVP won in 2006 has any relevance to the current Suns team, but he was the MVP those two seasons.
From when I started posting to his injury, I was bad mouthing Amare a lot more than Nash. I also bad mouth Nash cause every other Phoenix fan seems to think he's above criticism, there's no need to bad mouth Amare anymore when everyone knows he's lazy and selfish.
I find it mind-boggling you can have such a problem with Nash in the period after his MVPs. What exactly about Nash has changed since that point that repulses you? Did he play defense in those 2 MVP years?
Yes, he actually did. From 2005-2007, he tried his best on defense. He rarely ball hawked and he at least tried to make the best decision about whether to go over/under a screen.
After the 2007 season though, he began to make less and less of an effort. Before the Shaq trade that year, D'antoni had Marion and Amare defending the perimeter switching on pick and rolls more and more in order to maintain what had been a strong perimeter defense as long as he'd been coach, it did just that, but it made the Suns even more vulnerable on the offensive glass and in the paint than they already were.
That is what bugs me about Nash, I've seen stretches where he plays respectable defense. DPG is 100% right he's never going to be a consistently good defender, but that doesn't justify his unpredictable ball hawking habit on defense.
Last edited by DUNCANownsKOBE2; 08-20-2009 at 07:15 PM.
move by Shaq.
it became clear a long time ago that he has been the main, if not lone, instigator of every conflict he's in, at first because of his self-en lement, but now because he's not the basketball player that he once was and will say anything to be talked about. his talking game has aptly subs uted for his baskebtall game as far as the attention he's getting for it goes.
i'm soooo sick of hearing about this guy.
Leave the Black Spielberg alone, man.
Bash Shaq, not back to bashing nash. Make up your mind waffle boy!
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