The Gasol trade, a pure Enigma...

[picc84]

This is like the 15th gasol trade thread on these forums since ive been here. Really guys, we know it was a steal. It was two years ago, you've all got great teams so lets look forward.

[hater]

you do realize Rocketfan made this right?

[2Cleva]

lakers? isnt that the team that was left in tears in 2003? i tend to forget.

I can help

[lefty]

WGAF

It's done, it's the past, deal with it.

They are the defending champs, and it's up to other teams to dethrone them

[bbarry]

^ none of those images contains spurs with tears in their eyes. because spurs aren't pussies like the fakers

[elbamba]

Its done, doesn't really matter now what happened. The Lakers will always be able to attract stars and will always be able to work out good deals. Kobe for Vlade was a steal too.

The Spurs have the tools to beat LA, we do not need to worry about trades that happened two years ago.

[2Cleva]

^ none of those images contains spurs with tears in their eyes. because spurs aren't pussies like the fakers

As one great movie line goes - "Die like a man or die like a but you still gonna die."

Tears don't bother me. Only thing that matters is these.

[pad300]

Spurs fans have no ground to stand on here when they got Jefferson for a couple cigarette butts. Or maybe you guys could blatantly tank your season for the 1st pick in the draft again.

Memphis came out a much bigger winner than Milwaukee did in comparison. Which makes this hypocritical thread even more hilarious.

Whatever else be said about your argument (and there's a lot), any team that ends up with Zach Randolph on the roster simply does not qualify as a winner...

[thispego]

Kurt Thomas should have been an integral gear in Spurs rotation last season, but Pop didn't reward him so much time as what he deserved, thus it was not a bad move for both Thomas and his team to say bye to each other. Thomas will probably get traded again after the training camp to some contenders whose paints are relatively lacking in defense and toughness, in exchange for some craps and picks. Oberto and Bowen used to be pivotal roles for Spurs in their champion years in 05 and 07, but they both have slumped drastically these years and are no longer compe ive enough for the NBA games already.

It's very true that Tim Duncan is the only legit big man on Spurs, but the truth is, many other teams haven't even got one of such legit big men. Except these legit big men like Duncan, Dirk, KG... the rest are left behind by a big margin from the elites while are not widely divided from each other. And such kind of average big players are easy to get from the free market, if the GM is careful enough in observation then it shouldn't be impossible to sign some very decent guys at incredible low prizes like MLE, like Chris Anderson.

^ this guy is a ing moron

[thispego]

As one great movie line goes - "Die like a man or die like a but you still gonna die."

Tears don't bother me. Only thing that matters is these.

* - this is all you'll be getting with pau on the squad

[thispego]

WGAF

It's done, it's the past, deal with it.

They are the defending champs, and it's up to other teams to dethrone them

so because it happened in the past we should just "forget about it"? that's what laker fans want.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96569

[Mark in Austin]

My own theory is that Heisly was in real trouble and couldn't make payroll - keep in mind that this was before the League lined up a line of credit that teams could access. That was why they had to dump Gasol when they did. Now that they can "afford" a 20-10 player again, they went out and got Randolph.

My criticisms of Memphis are a little more refined - if I was dumping Gasol I'd try to find a team with a better draft pick (1-3) than what LA could offer; and there no way in I'd bring in Randolph to be the elder statesman on a rebuilding club.

[easy7]

I did not know you mother-fer's f-ed Ginobili in the Olympics, you bas s...

[kingmalaki]

Yes, because tanking a season for a 21.4% chance for the first pick is great franchise business.

I would say it turned out to be. Teams tank to improve their lotto chances all the time. It was no different when you guys landed Duncan.

Face it, the majority in the NBA think it was a bull trade, and that line of thinking is well beyond justified. Marc Gasol was not a known commodity at the time so that argument can be thrown out on its ass.

And the majority also knew SA wasn't really trying that hard to win games the season prior to nabbing Duncan, and kept guys "injured" to improve their lotto chances. Spurs fans have no room to complain about another franchise getting over, especially not when y'all just landed Jefferson for nothing and could have even resigned the players you gave up if your team chose to do so.

[picc84]

you do realize Rocketfan made this right?

Who made the other 80 Gasol trade threads?

[poop]

yeah cause Zach Randolph will help them more than Pao would have

hey everytime i see your SWEEP THE LEG! sig im just dying to know what happened next..any idea?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

LA got over on Memphis. Its what pimp franchises do. Deal with it or don't.

Remind me again, which Memphis FO exec was pulling the strings on the Gasol to LA trade?

Yeah...there was nothing fishy about that deal.

[Agloco]

hey everytime i see your SWEEP THE LEG! sig im just dying to know what happened next..any idea?

Nothing, the video cuts off after some dude gets up to help her.

[Agloco]

Appreciate that. Spurs fans would be the best reference for that anyway, especially with how Kobe has bent them over chairs as well.

Glad to help. A gentle reminder for those Laker fans who still run around with a hardon about the Gasol trade.

[InRareForm]

Lol at stupid laker fans thinking it wasn't a steal.

Lol at them talking about the jefferson trade. Jefferson is not a top 15 player in this league. Plus he is overpaid. Gasol is not.

[in2deep]

lakerfan never ceases to amaze me with their stupidity

[HarlemHeat37]

When you're a fan of sports, sometimes you just have to accept that the more popular teams are going to catch heavy breaks, and this is all this was for the Lakers..there's nothing we fans can do about it except cheer against them..we all love the sport so much that we keep watching, even though it's kind of obvious what was going on at the time..

Incidents like this one, the game 6 vs. Sacramento, and many others, are what makes Laker fans the most defensive fans in sports..they always have to make excuses and give reasons that really aren't logical, and sometimes don't make any sense at all..

Laker fans main excuse for the Gasol trade was that "they were ahead of the curve" when it came to salary dumps..that Kupchak started them before anybody..it's funny, because RIGHT BEFORE THAT, everybody that liked the Lakers was calling for Kupchak's head and throwing him under the bus..all of a sudden he had this master plan that nobody else in the NBA could pull off..

I also hear them compare it to the RJ trade..comparing a top 40-50 swingman, to an undisputed top 15 player in the NBA that plays arguably the most important role in basketball, which is the star big man..

I also hear Marc Gasol mentioned LOL..Marc Gasol's ceiling is a good role player..I respect his game, but that's clearly all that he's going to be in this league..

Kobe asks for a trade, the league gets scared..they wait on because the Lakers start off surprisingly well, and Andrew Bynum looks like he's going to break out and become a future star..Bynum goes down, so everybody makes their move..the league looks to the team that has ties with Jerry West, the former Laker and logo of the NBA, and their owner and management gets extorted for a deal where they get NOTHING in return except for a future role player in Marc Gasol, and salary that ended up being used on Zach Randolph and Allen Iverson, 2 of the biggest no-defense playing black holes in NBA history..


I used to get angry about it, but I've gotten over it..when it comes to sports, and even life in general, the rich kids will always get the breaks..

[temujin]

It's not a sport, it's a business.
And in business, the Gasols of this world will always go to whatever franchise makes more sense business-wise.

It's just utterly amusing that there are enough idiots out there that consider this as a "trade".

[temujin]

Oh and I believe this Heisly guy has just recently realized that the Gasol he's been paying is not Pau.

[21_Blessings]

Face it, the majority in the NBA think it was a bull trade, and that line of thinking is well beyond justified. Marc Gasol was not a known commodity at the time so that argument can be thrown out on its ass.

Marc Gasol was winning MVPs in Europe at the time. Not a known commodity my ass. Stop lying to yourself.

Not only that, Memphis also received 3 first round picks overall. Traded Crittenton for one, drafted Arthur (which has developed into a solid player) and still have one more.

How are you defending the Jefferson trade again? That's right you can't. Memphis actually got young talent + cap space back in the deal. The Bucks only received cap relief. Winner Memphis. Especially when you factor in Gasol pushing for a trade in the first place and the fan base wanting him gone.