I don't approve of the booing or the catcalls. Congressional dip s will have their time to speak afterwards.
I'm glad you brought that up. Since rounding them all up would be "impossible"...preventing all to be able not to acquire health care under this proposed plan would be impossible as well. Thus making Obama's statement regarding illegal aliens receiving care...A Lie.
Are you saying you condone illegal aliens receiving health care paid by actual citizens of this country?
Texas, New Mexico, California and most of all the gulf coast states operate a lot different with regards to looking the other way regarding illegal alliens.
I can understand apologizing to Obama, but why would he feel the need to apologize to that s , Rahm Emanuel? He probably felt like he needed a bath after that.
I think the point is that it will not provide ADDITIONAL service. When he says "illegals won't be covered", he means they won't get any service they don't already get now.
Rahms the middle man. He probably called Rahm and apologized to Obama through Rahm.
It can't be that hard to deduce.
In 94, Republican party went from The Party of No to making Clinton out to be the obstructionist. Politics is a .
You just said they would be covered as part of their compensation as employees. That's actually fine with me if employers are too stupid to find out who is illegal.
Heck elnono, it's a pain in the ass just to get a green card for someone who is here legally on a VISA. I had to do that for my wife.
If Obama does not mean to eventually include illegal immigrants into his healthcare plan, why was he saying 47 million people were without insurance that would get it if he were president?
If Obama does not mean to eventually include illegal immigrants into his healthcare plan, someone should tell all of these hispanic organizations who are endorsing his healthcare plan while throwing out statements including illegal immigrants.
Since I travel to Texas fairly often (have family about 30 miles from the border), I couldn't agree more with you. But maybe we should work harder securing our borders and then this entire concern about illegal aliens won't be an issue.
Anyone ever watched video from the House of Commons? That is brutal. And, it looks like they all have a good time doing it.
Why are we so hyper-sensitive that anyone should DARE say anything to our almighty POTUS?
Maybe if Obama quit playing games and would actually be specific while limiting his beloved government through text in the actual bill people would actually trust him enough to contribute to REAL reform that is actually trying to focus on healthcare and not other agendas.
If Obama is such a brilliant man, he should understand how he has come off to his opposition and try extra hard to abolish this magnitude of paranoia. Instead he has the same ol' democratic political ties, trys to ram horribly constructed bills down the throat of this country, and only attempts to throw WORDS to calm the growing disent.
I have 0 faith in this country, so it'll probably work out for him. But do not be surprised by actions like Wilson's.
Last edited by BadMoodBob; 09-10-2009 at 11:00 AM.
It's a speech, not Prime Minister's Questions.
Any idiot can see the difference.
Well, maybe not any idiot.
True. But the point I was eluding to is that it would be impossible to not keep health care from those illegals in this nation...even the ones who don't have valid ID because many times there will be a way found to get around the letter of the law as to what happens now.
Obama cannot, with validity, guarantee his comment.
i'm glad you asked. do you want people to pay for their own healthcare? or do you want to continue to pay for their healthcare?
He can guarantee his comment because Government pulls out on their promises indirectly. They go at you from a different angle.
They will tell you YOUR taxes will not increase; only rich Whitey. Instead, government increases taxes on private insurance companies, insurance companies in return raise your premiums to cover the added cost to them, your premiums raise. You've just been taxed.
They will not cover illegal immigrants. Instead they will grant workers programs. These workers cannot work in the States without health care, so we will give them basic coverage. Illegals immigrants are now in the system. A system that is being funded by printing machines and an ever-shrinking minority. We are all paying more for decreased quality so politicians can be viewed as compassionate care-givers while they continue to make their millions on The Hill. America, Fcuk yeah!
Last edited by BadMoodBob; 09-10-2009 at 11:10 AM.
That's a re ed ing take. That's blaming Obama for the illegal actions of the anti-citizenry. And as has been pointed out, such actions are no different than what's already happening now.
There is no provision in the bill that legally pays for the healthcare of illegal immigrants. End of story.
Oh and BTW, since I'm assuming this is still a Joe Wilson thread- somebody ought to gut that piece of in front of his wife and kids.
It's not the free for all you make it out to be. It only looks like it to us.
Time to change that pon.
Agreed. But the issue of illegal alliens is as overlooked as Obama's claims of health care being overlooked.
I can't remember the numbers but do remember a report I read regarding how much government money is spent on the care of illegal alliens in this country.
The number was extraordinarily high when emcompassing all factors such as health care, government welfare received, prison populations, etc.
I'll try to find that info and post it here.
Should you really be posting about changing tampons from work?
ChumpDumpe. Are all 45,768 of your posts this lame?
How so?
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