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Matt, I am totally disgusted with Republicans AND Democrats. Bush sold his fiscally responsible soul to get bipartisan support for the war on terror.
Do you REALLY want to debate this?
I have a 25 year old daughter that works, makes $15 an hour, rents a house, and makes a car note. She is a responsible citizen. She also knows she can't afford to have a baby right now.
On the other hand, you have 16 year old single mothers with no jobs, no income and no education having baby after baby because every time they have one their check from the Federal government gets bigger...
You think this is RIGHT???? How the can you possibly defend giving them incentives to have babies they can't afford? It is self-perpetuating poverty at a geometrically increasing number and the responsible tax paying citizens are deferring and or limiting their children because they know how expensive/difficult it is to give a child a good start in life.
Matt, I am totally disgusted with Republicans AND Democrats. Bush sold his fiscally responsible soul to get bipartisan support for the war on terror.
Nice theory except that there has been a small Texas secession movement as long as I've been alive.
The only reason I am taking the position that secession would be good is that Texas MIGHT be on a small enough scale that we could fix a lot of the problems facing the US. Politicians will still look out for their best interests and the citizens will have to be vigilant and involved to keep them from ing things up. I just think the US is irrevocably ed up and on a downward death spiral.
Hey, I'm a citizen of Texas first. I'm only a citizen of the US because Texas is a part of it. If the US isn't serving the needs of Texas, then we should look at secession. It's certainly not the ideal solution though.
Texas and Alaska should form an alliance and gank California.
Then give it back to Mexico.
Texas needs to STFU.....it currently gets about $1 in Federal benefits for every dollar Texans pay in Federal taxes....northern elitists states have paid 2-3 dollars for every dollar it receives in Federal benefits for years and the biggest recipients? Southern states...
Do entation?
If the northern elitist states would wise up to screwing the Federal government, maybe they would not be going bankrupt.
google is your friend...
Data: The Tax foundation
OK, we are 35th and get less back than we send in. I still think we can spend our tax dollars more wisely than Washington. More bang for the buck so to speak.
Those were 05 numbers, I'm sure the gap has tightened with more retirees moving to Texas and increased military spending in Texas..and think what you will, but the Military is not cheap..
What would we need the Alaskans for?
And why in the world would you give California back to Mexico, after killing so many of its patriotic sons?
Why not invest it with Texans instead?
Long live Texafornia!
At least some of you Texans get it.
You secede, the Union would declare war and you'd lose in historic fashion.
Un- ing believable.
not the first time i've been embarassed by fellow texans-and it will not be the last.
I personally don't think it has to be that way. It is quite possible that a secession could be negotiated. World opinion would simply not allow the US to roll tanks/troops into Texas...A reasonable analogy would be when the USSR broke apart...
Youre stretching the meaning of the word "reasonable" to unreasonable degree here.
Mind you, I am of the libertarian slant and more or less hope to see the downfall of the world in my lifetime, so take it for what its worth...
Secession in the United States is nothing like the separatists in say, Quebec, Canada.
Texas is too mineral rich and one of the few states in the Union who know how balance a ing budget (mostly).
If Texas secedes, the residual effect would be felt across the nation in short order. Lets just assume for a moment that there was somehow, miraculously an amicable secession from the United States (not very united anymore, are we?).
Over a short period of time, the nation would falter even faster while Texas does well. Off the top of my head, two things could happen:
1) Other states in similar positions would secede to strike their own lot. This is the rapid collapse of the United States in a nuts .
2) The envious eyes of a nation would be fixated on meagerly protected former state bent on reaquiring her.
Either way, youre fast-forwarding an already deteriorating situation. More I think about it, I guess I should be for a Texas secession. We would all be warring with each other in less than 15 years. Interesting thought experiment, nonetheless.
"World opinion would simply not allow the US to roll tanks/troops into Texas"
ha! You think even the US military GAF about world opinion?
The USSR broke apart because USSR invaded non-Russian countries and occupied them against their will, so when the USSR went bankrupt from low-oil-dollars and spending in Afganistan, the occupeid countries were more than ready to become independent again.
Absolutely no comparison with a US state seceding.
I think of it more from the standpoint of a broader social breakdown. If the US fell apart, could Texas cohere?
Extra Stout seems to think not; we'd all be plunged into a Mad Max-style free for all. He could be right.
I'd hate to think that Texas chauvinism is totally worthless apart from how it fires up our athletes. I'd like to think come the big social breakdown, that it would still mean something.
For some reason, I think it would.
What can I say? Given that the original idea behind the USA was independent countries in a permanent alliance with shared economic and military areas, I am perfectly comfortable with that statement.
It's no different than someone born in Berlin saying they are a citizen of Germany first, EU second. Except of course for the original ideals of the US being utterly devastated and all that.
Like I said, though, I'm not a secessionist. I'd rather reform the US back closer to its original ideals and bring back the 10th Amendment to some real meaning instead of words on parchment the government has wiped its ass with.
i'd go and fight with the illegals so we could fight for getting texas back for mexico
you and your Mexican rebels. I fight for Spain!!!
spain is on my mercenary list although if i could round up enough comanches i may be persuaded to go that way.
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