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  1. #26
    Kick the Tree TFloss32's Avatar
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    VY has a base salary of 7.5 mil for 2010. His roster bonus is 4.25. Because of escalators, his total cap number for 2010 will be 14.21 mil. 14+ mil for a headcase on the bench. They will have to pay him to cut him, but they would save 9.29 mil if they just flat cut him. His cap number goes up to over 15 mil in 2011.

    Buh-bye.
    I just don't envision this scenario unfolding, especially if the ans continue down the road they're currently on. They could be 0-8 at the start of Week 10. What if Kerry Collins gets pulled (people are already calling for it) and Vince Young plays decent the rest of the way? I doubt he can play worse than Kerry is right now. Collins' INT rate is already worse than Vince's from last season.

    I, personally, hope he gets cut or traded to a team that wants him to be their QB. That would be a good start in order for him to make a resurgence in the NFL. He's definitely not a an in the long-term as long as Jeff Fisher is around. With that said, I still don't think they flat out cut him. It would be a big mistake, IMO, to not try and get something for him in return.

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    I'm sure they WANT him to be their QB, especially with the money they are paying him. Unfortunately, he hasn't played decent enough to beat out an almost 38-year old re-re-retread.

    The most popular guy on the team is always the backup QB.

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    lol osu fan

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    They should've kept Chris Simms. He would be a better option than VY.

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    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    lol, mavs fan

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    I'm sure they WANT him to be their QB, especially with the money they are paying him. Unfortunately, he hasn't played decent enough to beat out an almost 38-year old re-re-retread.

    The most popular guy on the team is always the backup QB.
    I think Bud Adams does, but not so sure about Jeff Fisher (especially after VY's "disappearance.") I think their relationship is strained to say the least. I just feel like Vince needs a fresh start if he's ever going to be successful.

    They should've kept Chris Simms. He would be a better option than VY.
    Glad you could bring some relevant insight into this conversation.

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    Glad you could bring some relevant insight into this conversation.
    Tell me how Chris Simms wouldn't be a better than VY?

    Oh right because VY won in college and you are probably a UT homer. I get it.

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    Well, at least he always beats and owns the Texans, so that could be an easy win for the ans.

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    mavs in basketball >>>>>> osu in college football

    ut in college football >>>>>> spurs in basketball

    me >>>>>> you

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    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    mavs in basketball >>>>>> osu in college football

    ut in college football >>>>>> spurs in basketball

    me >>>>>> you
    mavs have as many championships as OSU football does.

    Spurs have more championships than UT football does.

    I have more relvancy than you ever thought about; plus I didn't throw in the third-grade school-yard jab for no reason without being able to follow up.

    I think that wraps that annoyance.

    I dunno about the Simms comment, but using college success is setting you up for failure; college good do not translate to pro goods.

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    mavs have as many championships as OSU football does.

    Spurs have more championships than UT football does.

    I have more relvancy than you ever thought about; plus I didn't throw in the third-grade school-yard jab for no reason without being able to follow up.

    I think that wraps that annoyance.

    I dunno about the Simms comment, but using college success is setting you up for failure; college good do not translate to pro goods.
    They both have four dill-hole.

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    that little guy won't be going that high dude...But I suppose a Vince/Colt preseason battle would be amusing

    I absolutely agree that he shouldn't go that high. , a 6th round pick might be too high.....

    but I think some GM will get caught up in the hype machine and draft him way too early.

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    either play vince young or cut him


    the cowboys need a qb
    Kitna >>>>> Vince

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    right about pizzagate Blake's Avatar
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    young has done nothing but find ways to win, even in bad performances
    young can't even win against an old fart Kerry Collins in training camp.

    Jeff Fisher knows what he is doing. You don't.

    lol, raiderfan thinking this year's team was going to be good
    lol, trade future for an old D lineman
    lol, Jamarcus Rumple
    lol, Mcfadden
    lol, Heywood Bey
    lol, you

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    we rang stretch's Avatar
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    mavs have as many championships as OSU football does.
    mavs are actually relevant at times

    osu is never relevant. only in their own minds

    Spurs have more championships than UT football does.
    are you re ed? do your research

    I have more relvancy than you ever thought about; plus I didn't throw in the third-grade school-yard jab for no reason without being able to follow up.

    I think that wraps that annoyance.
    lol osu

    thank goodness you are a raiders fan, otherwise you might be as much of a moron as blake. ing tech fans

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    young can't even win against an old fart Kerry Collins in training camp.

    Jeff Fisher knows what he is doing. You don't.

    lol, raiderfan thinking this year's team was going to be good
    lol, trade future for an old D lineman
    lol, Jamarcus Rumple
    lol, Mcfadden
    lol, Heywood Bey
    lol, you
    lol tech

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    It wasn't until his second year in the NFL that he showed he was human and capable of screwing up.
    Actually, after his second year, Mawae pretty much confirmed that the guy is an idiot. KM went on the radio and said VY didn't know many of the play calls, formations, etc and instead of calling a TO, just improvised and did what he wanted. Coaches love that.

    You'll take a pass on his rookie year because you know it was a stellar year for him. He was far and away the most impressive offensive first year player and he had some incredible performances. He was selected as Rookie of the Year and a Pro-Bowl alternate for a reason. He's proven he can play.
    He wasn't impressive as a passer his rookie year. Almost of the plays he made were done with his legs. His mechanics were poor, slow release and his ability to read defenses was poor. But he was a rook, and a lot of rookie QBs come into the NFL overwhelmed. Hence, the pass.

    Was he really far and away the most impressive rookie? MJD had an amazing rookie year with 16 TDs, the 3rd most all-purpose yards for a rook in the history of the game and the best YPC in the NFL since some guy named Barry.

    MJD was robbed and the only reason VY won it is because QBs trump RBs in these types of votes.

    And proven he can play? GTFO. The league is littered with guys that have one good year or a good stretch of games, go to the playoffs and are never heard from again. Just ask Tim Couch.

    It's not the same at all, actually. The ans went to the Playoffs with Vince Young and the Raiders will continue to go nowhere.
    Yes, they went to the playoffs in spite of VY. His decision making got even worse his second year when he the option to run wasn't as pronounced because of a quad injury and because defensive coordinators simply made VY beat them. Unless you think a 1:1.89 TD/INT ratio is good.

    And this is a guy who said he was going to shut up and work and then a few weeks/months later went on the radio and pretty much asked for a trade. The guy is simply a ing idiot.

    All this and we haven't even discussed his implosion last year. Fisher can't trust the guy and it shows in his reluctance to start him on an 0-4 team that needs a spark.
    Last edited by DisgruntledLionFan#54,927; 10-07-2009 at 02:29 AM.

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    go balls deep for jesus Kermit's Avatar
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    Actually, after his second year, Mawae pretty much confirmed that the guy is an idiot. KM went on the radio and said VY didn't know many of the play calls, formations, etc and instead of calling a TO, just improvised and did what he wanted. Coaches love that.



    He wasn't impressive as a passer his rookie year. Almost of the plays he made were done with his legs. His mechanics were poor, slow release and his ability to read defenses was poor. But he was a rook, and a lot of rookie QBs come into the NFL overwhelmed. Hence, the pass.

    Was he really far and away the most impressive rookie? MJD had an amazing rookie year with 16 TDs, the 3rd most all-purpose yards for a rook in the history of the game and the best YPC in the NFL since some guy named Barry.

    MJD was robbed and the only reason VY won it is because QBs trump RBs in these types of votes.

    And proven he can play? GTFO. The league is littered with guys that have one good year or a good stretch of games, go to the playoffs and are never heard from again. Just ask Tim Couch.



    Yes, they went to the playoffs in spite of VY. His decision making got even worse his second year when he the option to run wasn't as pronounced because of a quad injury and because defensive coordinators simply made VY beat them. Unless you think a 1:1.89 TD/INT ratio is good.

    And this is a guy who said he was going to shut up and work and then a few weeks/months later went on the radio and pretty much asked for a trade. The guy is simply a ing idiot.

    All this and we haven't even discussed his implosion last year. Fisher can't trust the guy and it shows in his reluctance to start him on an 0-4 team that needs a spark.
    This. Still, I would like to see him get some sort of redemption out of this fiasco. He can't play much worse than Collins is right now (well, hopefully). If they lose the next one, I'm sure that he will at least get one shot before they yank him real quick and put in Ramsey.

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    Better than you MajorMike's Avatar
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    mavs are actually relevant at times

    osu is never relevant. only in their own minds



    are you re ed? do your research



    lol osu

    thank goodness you are a raiders fan, otherwise you might be as much of a moron as blake. ing tech fans
    lol mavs fan

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    yes, they went to the playoffs in spite of vy. His decision making got even worse his second year when he the option to run wasn't as pronounced because of a quad injury and because defensive coordinators simply made vy beat them. Unless you think a 1:1.89 td/int ratio is good.
    +1

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    stretch's favorite qb list.

    1) McNabb

    2) Young

    3) Vick

    4) David Garrard

    5) Josh Johnson

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    lol colts

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    lol another failed thread

    lol you know jack about the nfl

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    lol boards biggest dumb talking

    lol beefanus > you

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    Vince Young is going to the hall of fame.

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