Most of Parker turnover don't come from passing (check his assist/bad pass ratio he has the 2 best in the league behind Paul).
He generally turns the ball over trying to score, not to pass.
manu fan vs. parker fan
This isn't a legit Manu fan vs. Parker fan argument. This is just Ducks saying re ed . Yeah the Manu homers are fun to argue with, but the fans like Ducks who to seem want to trade Manu for nothing and turn the Spurs into a PG dominated offense so they can circle jerk to Parker after watching the Spurs expose countless PG dominated offenses over the years makes no sense to me.
You should contact 82games.com and asked them how the passer rating is calculated (they don't talk about it on the site). I did it once, and had a reply like "This is a work in progress and not really a valid indicator". That being I have no problem saying Nash is better than Parker when it comes to passing.
I can't wait to see our big 2 playing, but to be honest last year the Spurs were a "PG dominated offense" for much of the season and Parker was not too bad (clutch time or not).
that "PG dominated offense" got spanked by Dallas in the 1st round
DOK:
Even though TP is the focal point, it is not a system designed completely for the PG like Nash or Paul. The Spurs still run a lot of plays and they have a legit scoring option down low. Also, the Spurs don't play at a fast pace like the Suns and they actually defend.
Come on... this was a 2 vs. 5 series... (should I say 2 vs. 12?)
All I am saying is that Parker proved he can be a go to guy and rather clutch.
Damn, I didn't remember all that.
I herebyto you, good sir.
Yep, Mason and Bonner failing to show did not help. And Pop not being able to get his head out of his ass until Game 5 concerning Hill was also a huge reason.
, I'm going to be thinking about hypothetical rotations again. Like Ian, Williams, and Hill all getting 20+ minutes because CIA Pop knows the Spurs stand a 1% chance of winning it all. Oh yeah, and starting Ian, so Tim can get some minutes alongside a god damn 7 footer, not a poor mans Dirk.
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America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
Well I didn't watch a whole lot of them last year (only nationally televised) so you'd know way better than me.
If Parker understands that when the fourth quarter comes around he's going to have to give the ball to one of the better closers on the team, then I'll take back everything I said about how him being the focal point would ruin them. If it's comparable to the showtime Lakers where Magic was the focal point for three quarters, but he knew that late in close games, Kareem was getting the ball, then that'd work. Obviously they won't be an up tempo team, but you get my point.
Keep in mind, I don't say this about Parker just to find reasons to say the Spurs are done. Boston is going nowhere if Rondo dominates the ball anywhere near like he did last season.
I have doubt mainly cause the Suns brought Shaq in with the idea Nash and Amare could have their "fun" for 40 minutes and then Shaq and Grant Hill would close the games out as the better half court offensive players, unfortunately this failed because Nash couldn't handle someone else getting the ball late in close games. It's dumb of me to use one situation to judge another, in one situation the PG has the coach by the balls, and in the other the coach has the PG by the balls and has the sac to bench a player for not sticking to a gameplan.
America, eatin' my lunch from a single bowl in my parents basement, where I'm livin'. Happy Birthday, I'm forty-three.
Don't want to waste those precious calories...chewin'. Jesus come move my jaw for me, help me get my sloppy food down my throat.
Well I disagree, just because guys like Parker and Manu can do so much more offensively. It is not about positions as much as it is decision making. If TP and Manu have the ball, just like a player such as Kobe would, they can either get a high % shot for themselves or have the option to defer if they are doubled or someone is open.
They can break down defenses and run plays. TP and Manu are better offensive options right now. It makes sense to have a balanced offense (which the Spurs do) and to have the ball in the best playmakers hands. Difference between you saying Rondo, is that TP is an absolute stud on the offensive end. He is one of the best, if not the best offensive option on the Spurs.
Again, I said I'm comparing apples to oranges and it's wrong of me.
Tony is easily the go-to guy.
Spurs quit going through duncan seasons ago.
I think the go-to guy in Detroit is Ben Gordan now, not Rip.... and it's probably Hedo in Toronto, not Bosh
Also... Stephen Jackson at 27? Come on, that's just hate. Jack is in my top15 easy.
also, this was in the Chris Bosh writeup:
I think that means they will be naming Duncan the Spurs go-to guyBut when you really look closely at Bosh, when it really comes down to it, do you trust him as The Man on your team like you would a D-Wade, Duncan or even Dirk?
waow...
I didn't think this thread would be so long... lol
The subject changed into a tp/manu or spurs/suns debate... weird guys!
There are no debate about our go-to guy, TP has the ball in his hands all the time and has shown these last couple years that his decision making improved and his "clutchness" too. (thks 4 the stats...)
As long as Manu isn't getting younger and TP keeps improving, threre are no other scenarios!
It doesn't mean Tony will ALWAYS take the last shot, it depends on the match ups and how they are feeling the game (see tp's buzzer beater against Philly last year, the first play was a great assist by tp to manu...).
Manu is still the best (by far) at the FT line, and will ALWAYS be our primary weapon in that area at the end of games...
But go-to guy means much than that...
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