I know you two are having fun, but it seems to break down this way:
Madison was a hypocrite for keeping his slaves. Madison realized that he was a hypocrite, and it wore on his conscience, but not enough to release them.
If he had crowds of visiters, he would be too busy too deal with the slaves. Plus he was president and the War of 1812 was raging on.
I know you two are having fun, but it seems to break down this way:
Madison was a hypocrite for keeping his slaves. Madison realized that he was a hypocrite, and it wore on his conscience, but not enough to release them.
But he spent a lot of time in Orange.
Yes, he was too busy having them work his expanding plantation.Yeah, he tried to invade Canada and got Washington DC burned instead.Plus he was president and the War of 1812 was raging on.![]()
Exactly.
btw - Tucker was a noted abolishionist. The Founding Fathers did their work, they expected the next generation or two to free the slaves. Madison was left waiting in the lurch.
Madison never freed any of his approximately 100 slaves.
Not much time, and when he was, he did not have a spare minute.
No, his plantation was actually reduced in size.Yes, he was too busy having them work his expanding plantation.
He tried to invade Canada, so he could add free states to the Union and free the slaves. Canada would have added 5 new states right away, plus more later; Upper Canada, Lower Canada, Quebec, New Brunswick, and Novia Scotia.Yeah, he tried to invade Canada and got Washington DC burned instead.![]()
That would have added 10 senators and a few dozen new congressmen.
The slave states would ahve been way outnumbered and emancipation would have been worked out by a gradual process, plus selling western lands to fund the project.
In fact, the New England States, those supposedly most against slavery, sabatouged Madison's war effort. They would not provide militia nor help with the war effort, plus they threatened to secede at the Hartford Convention of 1814.
How many people do you know who would go to those lengths to free the slaves? Invade Canada, that is quite a project.
Madison was not a hypocrite. He tried as hard as he could to free the slaves, but the BOSS (his wife) wouldn't let him.
Right. He was too busy running the plantation with the human beings he owned.
The house certainly got bigger.No, his plantation was actually reduced in size.
I would have been more impressed have he just freed his own slaves and not gotten the White House burned to a crisp.He tried to invade Canada, so he could add free states to the Union and free the slaves. Canada would have added 5 new states right away, plus more later; Upper Canada, Lower Canada, Quebec, New Brunswick, and Novia Scotia.
That would have added 10 senators and a few dozen new congressmen.
The slave states would ahve been way outnumbered and emancipation would have been worked out by a gradual process, plus selling western lands to fund the project.
In fact, the New England States, those supposedly most against slavery, sabatouged Madison's war effort. They would not provide militia nor help with the war effort, plus they threatened to secede at the Hartford Convention of 1814.
How many people do you know who would go to those lengths to free the slaves? Invade Canada, that is quite a project.
Exactly wrong.
James Madison never freed any of his slaves.
Exactly right.
Madison died in 1836, before you were born. I'm sure he would have checked in with you before solving all the nations problems.
They were already slaves before he inherited them.
If his brother Ambrose had not died unexpectadly, he wouldn't have had any slaves.
Ambrose ran the plantation when his father got old.
James Madison never freed any of his slaves.
Eh, he could've found other means to support her, I'm sure. I don't doubt Madison was better than alot of other slave owners, but he still kept his slaves.
One could even argue the fact that him realizing this conflict of interest at all shows an advanced morality compared to the mindset of the day. But he still kept the slaves, and no matter what proof there was negating the negative impact of that information, that fact can not be disputed.
Another point, James Madison's grandfather, also named Ambrose, was poisoned to death by slaves in 1832. His grandmother was still alive when James was born and was alive well into his childhood, to tell him the story.
Yet James never harbored any ill felling or prejeduces against slaves, despite that. It would be easy to become racist if something like that happened to your grandfather, especially in those days.
Madison, almost unique in his time, never uttered a racist word in his life. And he had a LOT of words do ented, a vast amount of material.
Three generations later, Abe Lincoln was still making racist comments in 1858.
He left his collected papers to her. They were sold for $100,000. But Dolley didn't free all the slaves, only some of them.
Dolley lived until 1848. She became so poor that her fomer slave Paul Jennings had to bring her food and money so she would not starve to death.
please say it three times fast, without breathing or thinking.
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That's more than James Madison.
James Madison didn't free any of his slaves.
he was going to free them, but he died before he was finished.
He had no intention of freeing them while he was alive, and he did not free any of them upon his death.
Yeah, but he left her papers worth $100,000.
A healthy, able bodied male slave back then was worth $1000.
So that money was worth way more than all his slaves put together. Old slaves are worth anything, and sick and/or disabled ones not worth much.
He did have the intention, but he was too busy building the American Republic, securing our Liberty. And he didn't have the money, as his papers weren't sold yet.
Frankly, when his father died, he should just have sold the slaves off, down to the backbreaking southern plantations, and let someone else take the blame.
So he should have freed them all at least on his death.
Jame Madison didn't free any slaves, alive or dead.
He had no intention.
Another pro slavery argument from you.Frankly, when his father died, he should just have sold the slaves off, down to the backbreaking southern plantations, and let someone else take the blame.
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