Ian hasn't play that much to consider him a bust.....If i were pop ...add him to the line up
Considering the limited playing time he'll get this year, I'm not sure he'll command the value to his option. If the Spurs really want to keep Ian for what ever reason next summer (i.e., no Splitter, no better 6th Big Option) then they should get a bargain.
Seems too bad that the team doctors failed to find the bone chip in the guy's ankle that ended up costing him a year of development and then the team won't pick up his option because he didn't play well enough in the pre-season, but that's the way it works out. It ain't the National Basketball Charity. Kid will probably get maybe one or two more shots. He'd better be ready to step up.
On draft night with proper foresight you make the right pick. Without the right foresight you make the wrong "bust" pick.
By that logic, the majority of all draft picks made by all teams in all leagues could be labeled a bust.
Of course, that would be ridiculous.
One of the most logical posts in this thread, and a idea we were both trying to harp on to no avail last season. How in the is it Ian's fault that the first 7 scans didn't find the problem? If even the third one had worked, he probably have played 20+ mpg for the 2nd half of the season, and maybe even worked out his foul issues. Tim/Bonner/Fab/Kurt from last season only had 50 quality minutes in them, so if Ian could learn to not foul out in less than half an hour, he'd be the 3rd at worst big in the rotation this year, and Pop might not have gone after Haislip and/or Theo. Especially not Theo if Ian had proven decent at blocking shots.
I really need to find a machine that can cross dimensions, so I can go to a parallel universe where Ian started all of '08-'09, Scola had been signed instead of Bonner, and Mason never had to handle any of the PG duties unless both Tony and Hill were hurt.
Can we "OFFICIALLY" close this already?! I'm so tired of hearing about this guy, he's never going to do anything for us. He's always hurt or recovering from something, just drop it already. The Spurs need to dump this guy away already.
By not picking up Ian's option for next year might say that he is a bust..
Like a box of Chocolates?
How about we just say..."This particular experiment is not working out. We had high hopes for this young man, but he has thus far been a dissapointment. All of you Ian fans are not to worry because he will get other opportunities, they just might not be with the Spurs organization."
AGREED!If we can't agree on Ian, can we all agree on this?
A bust is a lottery pick, Kwame Brown/Olowokandi/Adam Morrision/Darko are busts.
I'm so sick of seeing threads about this bust
Give it up people
And just like in any draft where hindsight is 20/20, look what could have been if Ian wasn't selected in favor of one of these players:
#30 David Lee
#33 Brandon Bass
#37 Ronny Turiaf
#40 Monta Ellis
#45 Louis Williams
#49 Andray Blatche (talented, but a total bonehead)
#50 Ryan Gomes
#57 Marcin Gortat
A couple of other more valid assumptions:
1. Spurs are already stacked at his PF position with Duncan, Blair, McDyess, Ratliff, Haislip, and possibly Splitter.
2. Due to the current cap, the Spurs wanted to cut their losses now and focus on Splitter for next year.
3. Just saw that it would be more trouble than it was worth to keep "teaching" Ian for another year or two at over 1.5 million per year (double that when already over the cap).
4. In understanding all this, the Spurs were just being professional and helpful in allowing Ian to find another team to get more minutes and more of an opportunity (i.e. Scola trade).
I am going to b*tch slap the next person who talks negatively about my avatar. I dare you.
How can he be a bust? It's not like we were expecting him to bring our Team to Championships or anything. Ain't he like a late 1st Round Pick?
Tiago Splitter. Now there is a guy I am looking forward to.
your avatar.
Ian and his glassgina.
your 20 post per day average.
Get a ing life.
They're all pretty good but we can't say if they were with us they would have developed as well because they mostly went to mediocre teams.
lol your avatar would get dunked on by mine.
lol you liking WNBA players.
lol looking at my profile.
lol guy on a message board telling another guy on a message board to get a life.
If he is a bust, then that will make him the first Pick 26 in NBA history to be considered one.
Yes he's a bust, failure, disappointment, project gone badly, whatever you want to call it... can't you knuckleheads ing accept that?
---the salma hayek pic was unfair, my porn server is down
---this is a non issue....he obviously sucks taint if his option was not picked up
---dammit extra stout why do you always gotta separate the herd in such bleak terms
Honestly though, I mean in my opinion, unless Pop and RC are ing morons, we should put Ratliff on the IR to just keep him healthy for a stretch. I don't know if it will be in December, or February. It probably depends on how fast Pop trusts him to know the system. When that happens Ian will take his place. When that happens, he will get a little PT. That's hit last chance ever as a spur.
Really, the bottom line is it sucks ASS that we have so many new players to break in this year. Noone, not even the grey's lord and savior timvp knows what pop is going to do in regards to playing time and rotation. There's a strong chance Pop will keep Ratliff active and blocking shots all damn season. Personally, due to him being insanely old and fragile, I hope that's not the case. But can you blame him if he does this? He's brand spankin' new. Such a Catch 22 here in regards to these old big acquisitions this offseason.
lol my avatar could cross the out of Ian and his glassgina, resulting in another trip to the IR
lol not looking at my profile
lol 20 ppd average. Find a woman!
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