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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    More often than not, the guys who think they are nice and finishing last are just pussys or have unrealistic expectations. Oh gee, why can't I get this girl who never showed any interest in me to begin with even though I've spent months pining after her. Must be because nice guys finish last.

    I would disagree to a point.

    I do think a lot of people are victims of their own unrealistic expectations.

    Sometimes, the object of your affections is just not into you and you need to move on...a lot of people have a hard time with that.

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    More often than not, the guys who think they are nice and finishing last are just pussys or have unrealistic expectations. Oh gee, why can't I get this girl who never showed any interest in me to begin with even though I've spent months pining after her. Must be because nice guys finish last.
    or have unrealistic expectations
    Good thing you didn't take your own advice.

    :highfive:

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    Good thing you didn't take your own advice.

    :highfive:

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    I didn't read the thread so what I say may have already been said...

    From my personal experience in the prime dating years (roughly 18-25), I think the cliche about nice guys finishing last does hold a lot of truth to it. Nice guys who like girls can often end up being good friends with girls they like. But, I've also been in and have witnessed where those situations also manifest into relationships where the nice guy becomes friends with a girl he likes, and after a while, they end up dating.

    I think there's actually a sensitive balance between being a nice guy and a "bad boy" when it comes to getting girls. Around that age for young women (18-22) especially if they're still in college, a lot (not all) of girls like the confidence and brashness of a "bad boy" off the first impression. I think they find that confidence sexy. But, here's where it gets tricky. Unless the girl is some "trick," any girl with any self-worth generally doesn't really want that "bad boy" for more than anything than the initial physical satisfaction of conquering a "bad boy." Girls find that "bad boy" sexy but also want to be the girl who can melt that "bad boy" into a sweetheart. No one really wants to be treated like .

    So, what gave me some pretty good success when I kind of figured that stuff out was when I liked a girl to come off with a first impression of being very confident, borderline y, almost flippant to girls I liked, but if I got the chance to talk with them or more importantly go out with them and stuff, to let them see that I was actually a really nice guy.

    Now, just like with everything else in life, it's not universal. Not every girl is like that. But, from what I saw when I was younger, a lot of girls had the penchant to be initially attracted to the "bad boy" but would fall for a sweet guy if they gave him a chance. That's why learning to balance the two personalities could give you some pretty good success.
    Dude, I love your posts... And from my own experience I can probably agree 100% on everything you just wrote.


    And like others wrote.... there is a big difference betwen being "nice" or "nice/quiet/shy".

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    More often than not, the guys who think they are nice and finishing last are just pussys or have unrealistic expectations. Oh gee, why can't I get this girl who never showed any interest in me to begin with even though I've spent months pining after her. Must be because nice guys finish last.
    BTW...how is life in Ann Arbor?

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    Well said, JamStone.

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    BTW...how is life in Ann Arbor?
    Not bad. I only get up there a few days a week, though.

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    The Last Good Sport samikeyp's Avatar
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    Not bad. I only get up there a few days a week, though.
    I was asking Manny...but that's ok.

    I still say we need a MI GTG

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    Che cazzo stai dicendo? DisgruntledLionFan#54,927's Avatar
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    I was asking Manny...but that's ok.

    I still say we need a MI GTG
    I know who and what you were asking.

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    Manny lives in Michigan too? I recall sam saying he was in the Lansing area, right? I didn't know Manny was around here.

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    this thread is dumb.

    It has nothing to do with you and more to do with the dumb ing es you try to fall in love with.

    Stop hanging around immature, don't know what they want out of life, psycho women and maybe you won't think these things.

    Find a nice intelligent, caring young woman with a good head on her shoulders and she won't ever be 'into a jerk' .....

    you guys are too much.

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    I suppose it depends what you want.

    I think nice guys do not finish last in finding a nice woman to have a long-term relationship with. I only like nice guys. No bad boys for me- ever.

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    y comedy will get you x amount of pussy, x standing for any number you can handle.


    Being a jerk gets you ass, but not from many chicks. Being a nice guy will turn you into your future fat wife's . Being a y comedian at all times gets you ass infinitum.

    so who wants to have secx?

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    DoK..I know where you're at...had a girl I was in love with for a LONG time through HS and after HS...she went after asshole after asshole, and I was the "talk to" guy. We ended up finally getting together, but then found out we weren't right for each other. My wife loved the fact that I was a nice guy. So, when it comes down to it, I think it depends on the girl.

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    this thread is dumb.

    It has nothing to do with you and more to do with the dumb ing es you try to fall in love with.

    Stop hanging around immature, don't know what they want out of life, psycho women and maybe you won't think these things.

    Find a nice intelligent, caring young woman with a good head on her shoulders and she won't ever be 'into a jerk' .....

    you guys are too much.



    I was waiting for a female to chime in on this discussion.

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    Women don't like nice guys because they want the strong jackass type. Besides, if they want a nice guy, they will get a gay guy as a friend.

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    Women don't like nice guys because they want the strong jackass type. Besides, if they want a nice guy, they will get a gay guy as a friend.
    What women really don't like are 26-year-old college graduates who spend all their time ing about how they hate their job at Target.

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    this thread is dumb.

    It has nothing to do with you and more to do with the dumb ing es you try to fall in love with.

    Stop hanging around immature, don't know what they want out of life, psycho women and maybe you won't think these things.

    Find a nice intelligent, caring young woman with a good head on her shoulders and she won't ever be 'into a jerk' .....

    you guys are too much.

    Your lack of knowledge of women never fails to shine through in your posts. You shouldn't be dishing out advice until you've at least felt a ty.

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    What women really don't like are 26-year-old college graduates who spend all their time ing about how they hate their job at Target.
    Got damn!

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    truth or milfs...i take the milfs

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    Up until a year ago, I always had some doubt about the common belief that being a huge asshole is the best way to get a girl. I then had a small experience/realization that debunked that myth completely (at least for me). 6 months or so ago on facebook, I made my status "nice guys finish last," just cause I was bored and wanted to strike a nerve in someone.

    This girl who I had been friends with for years showed mild interest in me after I lost 50 pounds (shortly before this time), but it was pretty clear she loved having a guy friend she liked to talk to.

    Two minutes after I make this status, her response is, "That's so not true. You're one of the nicest guys I know and I love talking to you."

    It probably wasn't right to respond the way I did, but I really didn't care about losing my "nice guy" status with her, so I responded with:

    "Right, and last I checked, that's about it as far as your view of me goes, a nice friend who you are so comfortable talking to, so comfortable you would never want to let anything else get in the way of that great talking bond we share. The next time I want a girl to think of me as the guy she can talk to, I'll put on my nice guy face. Regardless, thanks for providing my status with a great supporting example of a nice guy finishing last. I guess that's what friends are for."

    Since then, my most successful woman picker upper is setting up a beer pong game with my partner being my friend who has a girlfriend versus a girl I'm interested in and her friend. The next step is winning and then being a y asshole about it.

    What are everyone elses thoughts/personal stories that affected their belief on this issue? Do you think "nice guys finish last" is indeed true?
    How old are you? In my experience, nice guys (I've always been considered one) do finish last in their teens and early 20s because most young women are ed in the head at that point - they go for the 'excitement' of aresholes who treat them like crap and fail to look beyond looks/money for what really matters. Let's face it, young men are just as ed up and generally ignore the "nice girls" in the same way by only going for the hotties, even if said hotties are stupid, shallow, manipulative, etc.

    However, everything changed for me at about age 25 - suddenly women started to see me for who I was and I've had a series of great girlfriends since then. Nice guys can win in the end.

    It's true in a sense that nice guys finish last. But at the same time, it isn't simply a matter of being an asshole either. It's about being a confident alpha male. The mistake most guys make when they see a hot chick is immediately wanting to kiss their ass. That's the worst possible move. Everyone wants something more if they can't have it. Hot girls are used to being spoiled, having their ass kissed and getting whatever they want. When you don't react this way to them it makes you more desirable in their eyes. Never act like you need them. Never look like you are trying too hard. Seem more indifferent. When you talk to them be funny and a little bit y. Talk a little bit of to them. Not in a REAL mean way but something to make them laugh. There is a lot more to it but I'm lazy and I don't feel like typing that much.
    GBS is talking about the tactics used by the Seduction Community:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seduction_community

    The basic idea is that attractive women are used to being deferred to so they find that kind of behaviour unappealing, whereas lightly ripping on attractive women takes them out of their comfort zone and switches on their natural sexual urges. If you are interested, have a read.

    Personally, I think it's a pretty sad way to behave, but also makes some sense. It's not a desirable to be a wimp, but manipulating women and treating them like to get you wet is hardly wonderful behaviour either. I say just be who you are, and work out what you really want in a female partner - are looks really that important, or are qualities of character more important? Once I escaped the typical young man trap of placing my 'physical ideal' at the top of the list of important characteristics in a partner, the world of women really opened up for me. In the end, I've found my attraction to women is far more about who they are than what they look like... I think that's called maturing.

    son that is the unfortunate truth. you have to remember, most good looking broads are attention seeking s before anything else. they LOVE to whine and cry (aka brag) to their female and guy friends (the nice guys) about their "asshole boyfriend". anyone in their right mind will tell the broad that she needs to dump her jerk BF and she knows that, but won't do it because she loves the attention and pity she gets from the relationship. not to mention, her asshole BF is more than likely waxing that ass the way she likes it. sick sick world we live in I know, but its true.
    Yup, that is true.

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    When you go to college for 5 and a half years, and borrow 47,000 dollars in college loans and you've been working at a retail store for a year, you're honestly going to tell me that you wouldn't ever complain or about it?
    I will about that job whenever the I want. I'll stop ing about it when I get a better job or when I die.

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    They're a lot like Reno.

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    Don't want to read all of this thread, but I'm probably the first nice guy to finish first. Although it does help that I'm extremely good looking, have really ripped abs, and have a big . Yep, I have my own chickens at home. My girl loves them. They lay some big eggs! There's my remedy to you.

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    A bunch of loser dudes that hang out on the internet message board 24/7 giving advice/comments about women! ing hilarious.

    Here's the low down:

    As a guy, you like hot looking women, right?
    Well, guess what? Women like hot looking men...nice or not.

    So, my suggestion is get your fat ass in the gym, shave, get nice clothes, smell good, and get yourself a personality. Quit over analyzing this .

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