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@nkd
Youre still not making one.
You listed three people who were either tried in court in person or who were never tried in court at all, thus making your point a moot one.
Maybe somebody can educate me on this: were Gitmo detainees allowed to attend their trials? Honest question.
@nkd
Youre still not making one.
You listed three people who were either tried in court in person or who were never tried in court at all, thus making your point a moot one.
I believe so, in that they were present at trial (if there even was one for them).
Obviously, being a military tribunal, their rights were severly limited.
let me help you out you seem not to be understanding.
Italy was making a point, letting the CIA and other Intelligence agencies know not to come to their country and do that kinda . It is a good way of making that point IMO.
BTW, if you are arrested for reckless driving/dui/etc,etc and not show up in your court date in the US. The judge hands you the sentence "in absentia"
It wasn't clear to me, though: were the CIA operatives notified they were being tried?
Yes, very true. With as little sarcasm as I can muster, does Spain have veto rights in the UN?
No, they do not. I think France does however.
Personally, I know a lot of Americans feel the same as me about this, I say the UN with a 10ft rigged stick of thorns.
But thats me and has nothing to do with the CIA's rendition program (of which I am thoroughly opposed, btw).
Not germane to the conversation as the two situations are completely different in nearl every respect.
They did have representation there, according to the article.
dude, they ran away for that reason. come on they are the CIA. im sure they were tipped off.
Again, this was all to make a point. I dont see why ppl are ing about it. Good move by italian court IMO.
I do not know that they fled Italy at all.
It seems to me that post-rendition, the Italian government launched and investigation and followed the breadcrumbs, so to speak.
They were probably long gone beforehand and it had nothing to do with said investigation.
But I dont know one way or the other. You may be right, I may be right, who knows?
I am not ing, as I said, renditon is a horrible way to conduct business internationally (unless youre talking about grabbing people in international waters, like some former Reagan bureaucrat suggested).Again, this was all to make a point. I dont see why ppl are ing about it. Good move by italian court IMO.
But I am arguing against the trial and conviction of American citizens in Italy without them actually being present for their defense, regardless of whether the American government is complicit or not. Its bad form and completely contradictory to any country who holds the law and due process above any misdeed.
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/07/2...#storylink=cpyA former CIA officer has broken the U.S. silence around the 2003 abduction of a radical Islamist cleric in Italy, charging that the agency inflated the threat the preacher posed and that the United States then allowed Italy to prosecute her and other Americans to shield President George W. Bush and other U.S. officials from responsibility for approving the operation.
Confirming for the first time that she worked undercover for the CIA in Milan when the operation took place, Sabrina De Sousa provided new details about the “extraordinary rendition” that led to the only criminal prosecution stemming from the secret Bush administration rendition and detention program launched after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
More than 130 people were “rendered” in this way, according to a February 2013 study by the Open Society Justice Initiative, a U.S.-based group that promotes the rule of law. Many were tortured and abused, and many, including Nasr, were freed for lack of proof that they were hatching terrorist plots, said Amrit Singh, the study’s author.
Did I miss something, or is there no mention of this being a joint operation with SISMI, which was disbanded in 2007 because of this and other abuses of power...
What our CIA did may have been because of the trust of working with them.
all 130 times?
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