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    Look at the list of Organizations endorsing the House health care bill. No other president ever came even close to create such a coalition. This president is 100% right in his approach that most of the time it's better to compromise in order to achieve progress, than to take the all-or-nothing at ude that never lead to anything good. This will not be a perfect reform by any mean, but it'll be something worth at least 40 years of progress, and a terrific start to build on. Passing HCR and dealing with the unemployment, can pave the way to many-many years of Democrats governing America. It's time for some to take a step back and look at the big picture.

    For Healthcare reform


    AARP
    Advocates for Youth
    AFL-CIO
    AFSCME
    Alliance for Children and Families
    Alliance for Retired Americans
    American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychology
    American Academy of Family Physicians
    American Academy of Pediatrics
    American Association for Geriatric Psychiatry
    American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy
    American Association of Nurse Anesthetists
    American Association of Pastoral Counselors
    American Art Therapy Association
    American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network
    American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
    American College of Physicians
    American College of Surgeons
    American Counseling Association
    American Group Psychotherapy Association
    American Medical Student Association
    American Mental Health Counselors Association
    American Nurses Association
    American Osteopathic Association
    American Psychiatric Nurses Association
    American Psychoanalytic Association
    American Psychotherapy Association
    American Public Health Association
    Anxiety Disorders Association of America
    Arc of the United States
    Association for the Advancement of Psychology
    Association for Ambulatory Behavioral Healthcare
    Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law
    Association of American Medical Colleges
    Black Youth Vote
    California Rural Indian Health Board (CRIHB)
    Campus Progress
    Center for Clinical Social Work/ABE
    Center for Community Change
    Children and Adults with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder
    Child Welfare League of America
    Choice USA
    Clinical Social Work Association
    Clinical Social Work Guild 49, OPEIU
    Consumers Union
    Corporation for Supportive Housing
    CWA
    Demos
    Depression and Bipolar Support Alliance
    Doctors for America
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    Eating Disorders Coalition for Research, Policy & Action
    Families USA
    Family Voices
    Federation of American Hospitals
    Forward Montana
    Friends Committee on National Legislation
    Generational Alliance
    Health Access California
    Health Care for America NOW
    Health Care for America NOW – Southern Oregon Coalition
    Main Street Alliance
    Mental Health America
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    National Alliance on Mental Illness
    National Assembly on School-Based Health Care
    National Association of Anorexia Nervosa and Associated Disorders-ANAD
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    National Association of Mental Health Planning and Advisory Councils
    National Association of Public Hospitals and Health Systems
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    National Breast Cancer Coalition
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    Rock the Vote
    Service Employees International Union (SEIU)
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    Against health-care reform

    The GOP
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    and the talk-show wing-nuts

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    Rock the Vote...Really. It was that important for you to have a long list that you did that?
    In the against, you forgot
    People that work
    American Doctors Association

    Do you have a link of where you got the list?

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    Young Democrats of America
    No, really?

    What a stupid ing thread.

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    Look at the list of Organizations endorsing the House health care bill. No other president ever came even close to create such a coalition. This president is 100% right in his approach that most of the time it's better to compromise in order to achieve progress, than to take the all-or-nothing at ude that never lead to anything good. This will not be a perfect reform by any mean, but it'll be something worth at least 40 years of progress, and a terrific start to build on. Passing HCR and dealing with the unemployment, can pave the way to many-many years of Democrats governing America. It's time for some to take a step back and look at the big picture.

    For Healthcare reform




    Against health-care reform

    The GOP
    Teabaggers
    birthers
    and the talk-show wing-nuts
    How many aren't unions, college groups, or George Soros run?

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    American Doctors Association
    Do you have a link for this org? I found nothing in my own online search except Turkish-American and Chinese-American Doctors Ass'ns

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    For Healthcare reform
    Groupthink type organizations

    Against health-care reform

    The GOP
    Teabaggers
    birthers
    and the talk-show wing-nuts
    You forgot to add people with an IQ over 95 in the against column.

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    You forgot to add people with an IQ over 95 in the against column.
    They are decidedly absent from the four groups nbadan already listed in the against column, for sure.

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    lets put it this way

    AARP is for Seniors

    The GOP is for Health Insurance Companies

    what is their to argue.

    again it comes down to $$$$$ vs. people

    I just don't understand how the GOP can trick so many people.

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    lets put it this way

    AARP is for Seniors

    The GOP is for Health Insurance Companies

    what is their to argue.

    again it comes down to $$$$$ vs. people

    I just don't understand how the GOP can trick so many people.
    The only peopple AARP is interested in is the ones running the DNC. The actual members of the aarp did not endorse communist healthcare, just the buerocratic aarp leadership

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    The only peopple AARP is interested in is the ones running the DNC. The actual members of the aarp did not endorse communist healthcare, just the buerocratic aarp leadership


    so when was the last time the AARP "leadership" endorsed something that would HARM their members?

    what a dork you are.

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    here is another way to look at it.

    6 health insurance companies have an anti-trust exemption = fascism
    public-option = socialism

    at least the public option helps the people

    I guess you people that don't want the public option are ing nazi's and don't even know you are defending fascism what ing morons.

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    here is another way to look at it.

    6 health insurance companies have an anti-trust exemption = fascism
    public-option = socialism

    at least the public option helps the people

    I guess you people that don't want the public option are ing nazi's and don't even know you are defending fascism what ing morons.
    Companies cannot be fascist. Public option doesn't help cancer patients.

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    Trying to "control healthcare costs" and the bill has THAT MANY doctor's groups backing it?

    What would you think of Tobacco regulations that had the support of RJ Reynolds, or gun laws that had the backing of Smith and Wesson?

    Dupe.

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    Still no link to any of these legitimate groups endorsing public option.

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    How completely not surprising that the normal blue team puppets are for this. Great thread.

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    EVERYONE is FOR some sort of heath care reform. Some of us are just against a full government takeover and susequent upance.

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    EVERYONE is FOR some sort of heath care reform. Some of us are just against a full government takeover and susequent upance.
    Exactly. Spending trillions of dollars on another government bureaucracy isn't going to solve this problem.

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    Companies cannot be fascist. Public option doesn't help cancer patients.

    head

    companies that get special treatment from the government is the very definition of fascism are you a complete dumbass or what.

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    companies that get special treatment from the government is the very definition of fascism are you a complete dumbass or what.
    You are the dumbass that is blaming a co.
    Companies are supposed to make a profit. If buying a lobbyist to give them special priviledge gives them a better profit-good for them. It is the govt. screwing the people, not the co. If the problem is our elected officials are abusing their power, why give them more?

    “The most basic question is not what is best, but who shall decide what is best” Thomas Sowell

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    Trying to "control healthcare costs" and the bill has THAT MANY doctor's groups backing it?

    What would you think of Tobacco regulations that had the support of RJ Reynolds, or gun laws that had the backing of Smith and Wesson?

    Dupe.
    Right. A decade from now we'll be having the same exact "public debate" about this. When policy is shaped by "stakeholders" then you end up not addressing the problem, but rather doubling down on the current arrangement.

    Instead of questioning why virtually all individual medical expenditures are paid in part or full through third party payers or why health insurance is typically tied to employment, those matters are taken as a given.

    This plan isn't so much pure "socialism" as it is corporatism, though achieved by extending the existing socialistic arrangements in place. Of course, there was no socialism, but rather laissez faire tranquility, in place prior to January of 2009.

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    this plan isn't so much pure "socialism" as it is corporatism,
    +1

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    Any word on the American Doctors Association, SnC?

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    Those lists are actually counter-productive. You know they had to give up something that screws consumers to each one on that list. The longer the list, the worse it is.

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    Those lists are actually counter-productive. You know they had to give up something that screws consumers to each one on that list. The longer the list, the worse it is.

    ...then they have to spread pork to get the votes.....

    ain't democracy grand?

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    lol at people incapable of seeing the big picture laughing their asses off at how the gop is apparently able to "trick so many people".

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