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    How do you distinguish the good ones from the ed up ones?


    This is where the new technology will come into play and we won't have to hurt anyones feeewings.
    technology to gain insight into an individual's innermost thoughts and desires most likely from afar?

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    How do you distinguish the good ones from the ed up ones?
    I think people who are much smarter than you have worked on this, and I'm not just saying that because you're an idiot.

    This is where the new technology will come into play and we won't have to hurt anyones feeewings.
    There you go again....

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    What makes him an Islamic extremist again? Or what makes this a terrorist act again? I'm not sure he had a political agenda yet, but if you have information to share on that front please do so. I've also not been privy to any information that he practiced any extreme forms of Islam but if you have information on that front please share it as well.
    If he's muslim, then it's automatically a terrorist act.
    If he's christian, jew, or simply non-muslim, then he's just a nutjob murderer.

    Please get it right, I don't want to have to explain this ed up rationale again.

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    How do you distinguish the good ones from the ed up ones?
    Obviously, you segregate the entire class for official processing on the basis of creed alone.

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    NidalHasan scribbled: There was a grenade thrown amongs a group of American soldiers. One of the soldiers, feeling that it was to late for everyone to flee jumped on the grave with the intention of saving his comrades. Indeed he saved them. He inentionally took his life (suicide) for a noble cause i.e. saving the lives of his soldier. To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate. Its more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause. Scholars have paralled this to suicide bombers whose intention, by sacrificing their lives, is to help save Muslims by killing enemy soldiers. If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory. Their intention is not to die because of some despair. The same can be said for the Kamikazees in Japan. They died (via crashing their planes into ships) to kill the enemies for the homeland. You can call them crazy i you want but their act was not one of suicide that is despised by Islam. So the scholars main point is that "IT SEEMS AS THOUGH YOUR INTENTION IS THE MAIN ISSUE" and Allah (SWT) knows best.
    Thats a fairly nuanced statement. I don't know how this alone can be construed as having an extremist point of view. I don't know enough about Islam to say what he says is correct or incorrect, but I don't see anything in there that points to terrorism at all.

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    Obviously, you segregate the entire class for official processing.
    but you can do it by computer without them ever knowing, so it's not illegal or unethical.

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    technology to gain insight into an individual's innermost thoughts and desires most likely from afar?
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...oscanner_N.htm

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    If he's muslim, then it's automatically a terrorist act.
    If he's christian, jew, or simply non-muslim, then he's just a nutjob murderer.

    Please get it right, I don't want to have to explain this ed up rationale again.

    If he's christian, jew, or simply non-muslim, then it's automatically a domestic terrorist act.

    If he's muslim, then he's just a nutjob murderer.

    Please get it right, I don't want to have to explain this ed up rationale again.

    Actually, I should correct the MSM quote. They won't even say "muslim".

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    Anxiety-detecting machines could spot terrorists

    Like the TSA's program,FAST raises reliability questions. Even if machines accurately spot someone whose heart rate jumps suddenly, that may signal the agitation of learning aflight is delayed, said Timothy Levine, a Michigan State University expert ondeceptive behavior.

    "What determines your heart rate is a whole bunch ofreasons besides hostile intent," Levine said. "This is the whole reason behavioral profiles don't work."

    Burns said the measurements would not be stored and would give a quick read on someone. Previous research, Burns added, has found that people planning to cause harm act differently from the anxious or annoyed.


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    Good luck with that. If you think it's annoying to flight right now, wait until this starts spitting false positives like there's no tomorrow.

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    Actually, I should correct the MSM quote. They won't even say "muslim".
    So we round up all muslim and send them to Gitmo? Just in case, right?

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    measuring nervousness at an airport is not effective b/c many passengers if not most are nervous/stressed at airports.

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    measuring nervousness at an airport is not effective b/c many passengers if not most people are nervous/stressed at airports.
    Notice also the article date...

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    Anxiety-detecting machines could spot terrorists

    Like the TSA's program,FAST raises reliability questions. Even if machines accurately spot someone whose heart rate jumps suddenly, that may signal the agitation of learning aflight is delayed, said Timothy Levine, a Michigan State University expert ondeceptive behavior.

    "What determines your heart rate is a whole bunch ofreasons besides hostile intent," Levine said. "This is the whole reason behavioral profiles don't work."

    Burns said the measurements would not be stored and would give a quick read on someone. Previous research, Burns added, has found that people planning to cause harm act differently from the anxious or annoyed.


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    Good luck with that. If you think it's annoying to flight right now, wait until this starts spitting false positives like there's no tomorrow.

    Ever seen Midnight Express?

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    Ever seen Midnight Express?
    No. Did you ever see Die Hard?

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    Notice also the article date...
    maybe darrin hasn't refreshed the page since september 2008, and that's why the article was fresh on his mind. or maybe he googled really hard to try to keep us from ridiculing him even more about his "minority report" fantasies.

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    maybe darrin hasn't refreshed the page since september 2008, and that's why the article was fresh on his mind. or maybe he googled really hard to try to keep us from ridiculing him even more about his "minority report" fantasies.

    Is September 2008 ancient history or something?

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    In any event, I'm curious on your views of the statement you linked by the shooter, Darrin. What do you feel is incorrect about it? And of course, why?

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    No. Did you ever see Die Hard?

    Midnight Express. Guy is attempting to smuggle hash out of Turkey and gets busted. Good movie and true story.

    Last edited by DarrinS; 11-06-2009 at 12:50 PM.

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    Is September 2008 ancient history or something?
    It's been over a year.
    Have you seen one of those machines on an airport recently?

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    Midnight Express. Guy is attempting to smuggle has out of Turkey and gets busted. Good movie and true story.
    I'm reading the synopsis:

    The movie deviates from the book's accounts of the story, especially in its portrayal of Turks, to such a level that many have criticized the movie version, including Billy Hayes himself. Later, both Oliver Stone and Billy Hayes expressed their regret on how Turkish people were portrayed in the movie.

    Would this be you in 5 or 10 years?

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    I'm reading the synopsis:

    The movie deviates from the book's accounts of the story, especially in its portrayal of Turks, to such a level that many have criticized the movie version, including Billy Hayes himself. Later, both Oliver Stone and Billy Hayes expressed their regret on how Turkish people were portrayed in the movie.

    Would this be you in 5 or 10 years?

    Oliver Stone should apologize for many of his movies. But I thought Midnight Express was a pretty good film.

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    it's also relevant to the discussion

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    Sarcasm, innuendo, non-sequitur and hijack. Is the whole DarrinS oeuvre.

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    Sarcasm, innuendo, non-sequitur and hijack. Is the whole DarrinS oeuvre.



    WH, have you ever seen Midnight Express?

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