McDonald: Fin expected to return

[bless1187]

I think what most posters are afraid of is that Pop's mancrush on Finley prevents him from playing Fin in limited minutes, even when his shot isn't falling.

well last year, we didn't really have that much option at SF, and M. Finley was arguably our best SF in Pop's eye since the only other option was B. Bowen and I. Udoka; and from what i've seen from the play of the latter 2, Pop made the right choice in giving M. Finley the minutes.

[z0sa]

because Pop can't be trusted (#1), and Finley is washed up (#2). If Pop uses him as the locker room/end of the bench guy he is, there's no problem.

He's a Pop favorite, and everyone seems to like him. Unless we get burned because of his salary ...

[crc21209]

I think the majority of the Spurs Talk's users have been extremely unfair to M. Finley. He is definitely no longer starting material; but he is not trash either; some are saying that M. Finley is dead weight and they would rather play 4 on 5 if M. Finley were meant to play. M. Finley have made plenty of big shots on the Spurs the last 4 years; he was brought in to play his role which is knocking down the open shots and playing adequate defense; and he did that role fairly fine. Still to this day, i feel that M. Finley is still our best shooter on this team. I don't think he should play the role that he played last year which was close to 30 mpg as our starting SF; but i think he could fill the role of a backup just fine at 15-20 mpg. And some Spur's fan got to give up the fact that B. Bowen is coming back to play the backup SF spot; we had a lot of great years with B. Bowen, but age has finally caught up with him; and i think that was the main reason Pop kept him out the rotation for some times last year until M. Ginobili got injured. I really like this current depth chart once we sign a big man.

T. Parker / G. Hill / J. Mclinton
R. Mason / M. Ginobili / M. Hairston
R. Jefferson / M. Finley / J. Gist
R. Wallace / D. Blair / M. Bonner
T. Duncan / I. Mahnimi

If we can get Bowen back, I would love this roster even more:


T. Parker / G. Hill / J. Mclinton
R. Mason / M. Ginobili / M. Hairston
R. Jefferson / Bruce Bowen/ M. Finley / J. Gist
R. Wallace / D. Blair / M. Bonner
T. Duncan / I. Mahnimi

That is a 15-man roster right there. . The players on IR would probably be Hairston, Gist, and Mclinton or someone else. Besides, you can change the IR from day to day so...I would be fine with this roster right here. , even put Fin on IR and just let him be a voice in the locker room.

[objective]

I think the majority of the Spurs Talk's users have been extremely unfair to M. Finley.

... we had a lot of great years with B. Bowen, but age has finally caught up with him

you think age caught up with Bowen . . . but hasn't caught up with Finley?

[SonOfAGun]

The armchair quarterbacks are out in full force no question.

strong white knight

[bless1187]

you think age caught up with Bowen . . . but hasn't caught up with Finley?

well i'm sure it caught up with M. Finley a long time ago, since now he's just restrictedly a spot up shooter. M. Finley still got one of the sweetest J on the team, and age can't catch up with the way the man shoots. While B. Bowen is a defensive stopper, so age will affect his game more since he need the speed and quickness to guard the perimeter players out there.

[bless1187]

As a shooter, Finley > Bowen?

Last season
Finley FG% .437, 3P% .411
Bowen FG% .422 3P% .429

Finley and Bowen are approximately the same shooter. Bowen >>>>>> Finley at D.

so you are saying that B. Diaw is also a better shooter than R. Allen since if you want to talk statistics, B. Diaw also shot better from the 3pt line than R. Allen did last year. If you watch basketball, you know M. Finley as a jump shooter >>>>>>>>> B. Bowen as a jump shooter.

[timvp]

The only way Finley won't play too much is if: 1) He's not on the team 2) Pop is fired.

Two isn't going to happen so one is the only hope.

It's hilarious that this thread is playing out like last year's thread about Finley re-signing. So many Spurs fans were convinced that Finley would be used as a deep reserve and that Pop had learned his lesson in playing him too much. What happened? Finley played more than ever.

If Pop can bench a Spurs legend who had been named to the All-Defensive team for the last eight years or whatever it was to make room for Finley, he'll find a way once again. If you could guarantee that Finley would take a Steve Smith 2003 role, I'd be fine with him coming back. But if he's part of the rotation at all this coming season, I don't think the team wins a championship. Finley is just too horrible at defense, too soft and too much of a volume shooter who gets cold at the absolute wrong times.

This is becoming an annual event.

1. timvp gets mad that Finley is returning.

2. ST posters say that Finley will only get spot minutes and play a small role.

3. timvp says Pop will find a way to play Finley too much.

4. Pop finds a way to play Finley too much.

5. Rinse repeat for the next season.

[Warlord23]

6. The "true fans" suck Pop's and wait for his mysterious tactics to pan out

[xtremesteven33]

The world may never know.....

[kobyz]

finley is not playing too much, just 20MPG and it will get down when Manu and RJ will get in the groove, right now Finley getting 20MPG cause he is better option than Mason. Finley has only one bad game and there you jumping, calm down!

[UnWantedTheory]

Talk in another 15-20 games. Its only the 4th game....geez.

[hsxvvd]

finley is not playing too much, just 20MPG and it will get down when Manu and RJ will get in the groove, right now Finley getting 20MPG cause he is better option than Mason. Finley has only one bad game and there you jumping, calm down!

Only one? What games have you been watching?

[MannyIsGod]

We're ed man. Its official that Fin has pictures of Pop ing Rasho in the broom closet or something close to that because this is just ed up. There's no ing need to play Finley.

WHAT
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[Manu20]

Mason should start and take most if not all of finley's minutes.

[baseline bum]

This is becoming an annual event.

1. timvp gets mad that Finley is returning.

2. ST posters say that Finley will only get spot minutes and play a small role.

3. timvp says Pop will find a way to play Finley too much.

4. Pop finds a way to play Finley too much.

5. Rinse repeat for the next season.

I've given up on a sensible role for Finley. I hate that Pop's Finley love has now fully carried over to Bonner's ass though.

[HarlemHeat37]

All I'm going to say..

Mason and Finley play the same way..we don't have room for both..one of them has to be moved to make room for a guy with a different skill-set..I'd obviously rather have Roger, but he would probably bring in a better player in a trade..

Finley would be good on a younger team, as a veteran presence that could come in once in a while for some shooting..he won't be good on this team, because the coach uses him in a much bigger role than he can successfully play..

Michael Finley is ONLY good when he's hot..that's it..he doesn't have a middle-ground, he's either hot or cold..when he isn't making shots at a consistent rate, he hurts the team..bad shot selection, horrible passer, can't rebound, can't play defense..

there's still time, isn't there?..probably not..

[Blackjack]

I've officially gone numb when it comes to Fin and Bonner.

I sit in front of my computer and read plenty of logical posts that I agree with and some that are absolutely ridiculous and, yet, I just can't bring myself to go any more in depth on the topic.

I'm done with these two.

I'm washing my hands of the filth that is their starting roles.

The sad thing is, I don't really have a problem with either of them individually. They're both quality people and professionals that could be an asset to most any team given the proper role and minutes. It's not their fault Pop utilizes them the way he does, right? (incriminating photos and affairs are only speculation -- logical, but speculation -- at this point)

So that's it. I'm done trying to convince myself or this board of the misguided approach Pop's taken with the two; I will no longer allow it suck my will to live.

So in the words of the immortal B. Bowen:

It is what it is..

[HarlemHeat37]

We should all pitch in some $ to hire the best PI to dig some dirt and figure out what's going on..the sad part is that I'm not joking in any way..it would actually be the only way to figure this out, we deserve to know..

[timvp]

Damn, did the bump finally put Finley starting to bed?

[MannyIsGod]

Damn, did the bump finally put Finley starting to bed?

As if Bogans is any better? What the is wrong with Pop? Bogans may sound like Bowen but its not the ing same. Should have ing kept Bowen if this is the plan.

[HarlemHeat37]

Unless Bogans has a bad game..

[timvp]

As if Bogans is any better? What the is wrong with Pop? Bogans may sound like Bowen but its not the ing same. Should have ing kept Bowen if this is the plan.

Agree that Bowen > Bogans. But at this point, I'd say Bogans > Finley.

Baby step, I guess.

[Das Texan]

Its too bad Bogans is beyond ing offensively. He makes Bruce look like ing Lebron James offensively.


I would like to see us just run with Mason or even Hairston in the starting lineup at the 2 for a while.

[DPG21920]

I feel very confident in saying Malik would be better than Bogans or Finley.