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That's it in a nuts .
Replacing Kidd with Harris right now on this Mavericks team would make it worse.
That's it in a nuts .
One of their players got tested positive for swine flu, which wasn't a surprise though since the Nets have got a swine in locker-room who's going to spread this even broader. Honestly the Nets were more of a victim getting robbed in the prior Jefferson trade than the Bucks were in the later one.
Throwing in two first-round picks was bad. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy trading 10 years of Devin Harris for 3 years of Jason Kidd.
Firing AJ and trading Harris are the two biggest reasons why the Mavs aren't elite anymore.
Firing Avery was absolutely necessary for them to continue contending. They had quit on him and tuned him out. Carlisle got more out of that core in 2009 than Avery did in 2008. The Gasol/Garnett trades have way more to do with Dallas no longer being "elite" by shifting the balance of power than the Kidd trade.
It was a mistake to throw in 2 first-rounders, but no ing way they're better off with Harris for 50 games a year while they try to prop the window back open than having Kidd for 75 games.
I agree on AJ, but, their new coach (name escapes me) evens that out. Harris is a loser.
then what we got this year from our first founder? Even in a nutritious draft year like 03, our first rounder still would by 90% chance turn into something worthless given how big an idiot Donnie is.
Actually, signing JK was a major mistake.
They weren't winning it with Harris.
Though wasn't so tragic as Houston wasting their 1st pick in 02 on a piece of .
For sure, old horse.
At the begining of the 07/08 season the Mavs were in the top of the list of contenders (They had the advantage over the Spurs in the individual match-up, the Celtics had a lot to prove and the Lakers didn't have Gasol) but they had a semi difficult start and Cuban freaked out (thanks in part to what happened in the two prior playoffs) made a desperate move and that was it, they were never the same team. If they have kept the same core of guys they would still be fighting in the top (2nd best team in the west IMO).
Numbers don't lie on this case, the Mavs were a much better team with Harris instead of Kidd.
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That team with Harris doesn't beat the Celtics or Lakers in a 7-game series. I wouldn't have done the trade by throwing in the picks, but Harris is what he is at this point: a homeless man's Allen Iverson, or Mo Williams with a bit better defense. And there is just no way you can convince me this team is better off today with Harris instead of Kidd. Kidd can't guard the quick guards like Parker, Paul, etc, but Harris doesn't guard those guys. Kidd is still a much better floor general than Harris will ever be.
As for "2nd best team in the West," I don't think that's the goal, but for what it's worth, you're delusional if you don't think the Mavs have an excellent shot at being the Lakers' bridesmaid this year.
Maybe, but Mavs will get worse if they still play 37-year-old JK in 2011.
They're trying to win now. Harris is not a franchise player and never will be.
CP3 is like a 21 year old Victoria's Secret Playmate, Jason Kidd is a cougar, and Devin Harris is like one of those chicks you see in the Sunday paper bra ads.
I wouldn't be so sure that that Mavs team with Harris doesn't beat the Lakers or Celtics, probably not but they'd have had a much better chance (or at least a chance) than with Kidd.
What do you mean by Harris doesn't guard those guys? I've never seen anybody defend Parker like he did everytime Spurs and Mavs faced each other.
And sorry, but you're the delusional one if you think this Mavs team has a chance to be the second best team in the WC.
So what? you didn't need for Harris to be a franchise player.
The Lakers psychologically own the Mavs and always have. If you think Devin Harris gives them a mental edge over Kobe and Co. that an alpha dog and all-around mother er like Jason Kidd doesn't, I don't know what to tell you.
Watch him sometime on the Nets. He doesn't play defense for Frank like he did for Avery. And it's not like the Mavs need Kidd to shut down Parker to beat San Antonio.What do you mean by Harris doesn't guard those guys? I've never seen anybody defend Parker like he did everytime Spurs and Mavs faced each other.
Oh, who's going to be the runner-up? The Social Security Spurs? The Blazers, after they messed with their chemistry by signing Miller? The Nuggets, who don't have any depth? The Hornets, which are a 2-man team? The Jazz? The Mavs are playing better than all of those teams right now. The West is going to be just like it was the last two years - there's the Lakers, and then a dogfight between the next 6-8 teams. The Mavs have just as good a chance as anybody to be the bridesmaid.And sorry, but you're the delusional one if you think this Mavs team has a chance to be the second best team in the WC
Poor kids don't even know they're jacking off to Devin Harris.
Mavs with Harris >>> Mavs with Kidd, and these last couple of years: Harris > Kidd.
I don't care what he does now, he's capable of playing great defense and the only time he was on an elite team that was what he did.Watch him sometime on the Nets. He doesn't play defense for Frank like he did for Avery. And it's not like the Mavs need Kidd to shut down Parker to beat San Antonio.
Denver is a much better team and they own the Mavs, so there alone you have the reason why the Mavs won't be a top 2 team in the WC. Besides it's still early in the season, I think teams like the Spurs, Blazers and Jazz will get it toghether and IMO those teams are better than the Mavs.Oh, who's going to be the runner-up? The Social Security Spurs? The Blazers, after they messed with their chemistry by signing Miller? The Nuggets, who don't have any depth? The Hornets, which are a 2-man team? The Jazz? The Mavs are playing better than all of those teams right now. The West is going to be just like it was the last two years - there's the Lakers, and then a dogfight between the next 6-8 teams. The Mavs have just as good a chance as anybody to be the bridesmaid.
The he is. Devin Harris is good at one thing, and that's taking his man off the dribble. He can't shoot, he doesn't play defense anymore, he can't run an offense like Kidd, and he doesn't have near the bball IQ. The Mavs are a much better team now than they were at the time of the Kidd trade.
Last year? Sure. After the Mavs added Marion, Thomas, Gooden, Ross, We'll find out.Denver is a much better team and they own the Mavs,
The Jazz? The team that Dirk bukakked all over and just lost to Sacramento at home? They're better than the Mavs?so there alone you have the reason why the Mavs won't be a top 2 team in the WC. Besides it's still early in the season, I think teams like the Spurs, Blazers and Jazz will get it toghether and IMO those teams are better than the Mavs
Oh, and Manu > Dirk.
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